2 easy ones (famous last words)

Dear experts -
I have a multi-tab form, and I have two issues:
1) when I'm on tab 2 or 3, for example, there are just 1 or 2 fields from the underlying record on that tab (they're mostly filled with subforms). I want to update the underlying record with the data IN THAT FIELD that is being updated, without going through the form's Before Update event, which checks a lot of other stuff.
I then want to show that the record is not dirty.
What's the easiest way to do this?

2) Similarly, I have some subforms on these same tabs; I run certain procedures that update 1 or 2 fields in the underlying main record (the record that governs the parent form).
I want to update those fields, not hit the parent record's Before Update, and then show that the parent record is not dirty.

Thanks for any guidance!
terpsichoreAsked:
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Gustav BrockCIOCommented:
> I want to update those fields .. and then show that the parent record is not dirty.

Then you will have to have these as unbound controls, update the main record by an independent SQL or VBA update, and finally requery the main form.

/gustav
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terpsichoreAuthor Commented:
is that the only solution?
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Gustav BrockCIOCommented:
Don't know. But you can't edit any field (bound control) of the main record without making the main form dirty.

/gustav
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Scott McDaniel (Microsoft Access MVP - EE MVE )Infotrakker SoftwareCommented:
Only workaround I could suggest would be to set a Form-level variable in each of those controls where you do NOT want the validation to run, and then check the value of that variable in the Form's BeforeUpdate event. So if I have a Form-level variable named "fRunValidation", and a control name txCustomer, and I do NOT want to run the validation, I'd do this in the CONTROL's BeforeUpdate event:

fRunValidation = False

Then, in the FORM BU event:

If fRunValidation Then
  <your validation code here>
End If
'/ reset the variable
fRunValidation = False

You'd also want to reset fRunValidation in the Form's Current event, to "reset" the value each time you move to a different record.

As gustav has said, then only way to show a form being "not dirty" is to let Access run the full event stream.
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terpsichoreAuthor Commented:
many thanks.
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