FTP backup?

Say, I am using Cobian Backup to back up the My Documents folder, on a workstation, to a WIN2008 server on which an FTP login has been created.  The My Documents folder is 43 GB in size. Kindly recommend appropriate settings in the Cobian backup to accomplish this, alternatively, please recommend alternate software. The plan is to do 1 full backup of the My Documents and then to simply backup the changes on a daily basis. Does Cobian allow one to restore a backup? Is there alternate software that will accomplish this?
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Ron MalmsteadInformation Services ManagerCommented:
...nowadays.. storage is cheap.  Super cheap...

I recommend using USB attached storage drives, to backup your data using "backup-to-disk", at night.., (using any "full" backup software you're comfortable with), Cobian is fine...;, ..then during the day, you copy everything from one drive to the other (with a simple robocopy script) ... just in case of drive failure, and you can FTP it to a remote location in case of a total "disaster" event. (fire, earthquake, hurricane, flood)

I've always been a fan of (Symatec) Backup Exec.. but nearly every backup software I've dealt with has the same rate of restore success as any other,.. provided you have reliable storage with the correct backup plan.

My plan is as follows for 4 webservers, 3 domain controllers, 1 mail server, and 3 database servers:

Sunday, Full backup.
Monday-Saturday - Incremental
One 2TB USB drive mirrors the other via script (robocopy.exe), in case of failure.

..for 10 years, I have yet to meet a server/data failure I can't restore from.. and I've operated on a shoe string budget for as long as I can remember.  Done correctly, you can have full restore capability..reliabley.. for very little cost.

..good luck, hope this helps.

Davis McCarnOwnerCommented:
Cobian Backup is great stuff; but, would best be described as a folder sync utility; because, after the first backup, it will copy any new or changed files to the destination ensuring you have a good backup each time it runs.  What is nice; too, is that you can browse to the destination folder and get any file or folder you might want.
Shouldn't you add your Favorites and/or E-Mail to the list?
I'm also assuming you still have XP as you called it "My Documents"
FTP logins are not a good way to back up data. FTP can corrupt your data, the protocol isn't data transparent. META Data can be lost.

I personally use a file share on a server and then use the following ROBOCOPY command to back data up.

robocopy "%userprofile%\my documents" \\server\Backups\netbook\docs /s /v /xf *.pst /xf *.au

This excludes ".PST" and ".AU" files as PST files are usually open and can't be copied, but as others have noted this won't save favourites.
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Davis McCarnOwnerCommented:
Cobian Backup will use the VSS service to get that PST file even if it is open.
Yes, last time I used Cobian it didn't have VSS. Re-reading the docs looks like Cobian will do just what the user wants, but 90% of the settings will depend n the user names etc that the user doies...
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
Is VSS shadow copy?
Cobian offers differential and incremental - what is difference?
I plan one full copy and then one of the above.
If I choose to zip gets very big!
Options are to split the zip of zip each file.
Will above work ie incremental/diff and what recommend.
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
g4ugm its a remote server - how would one automate a file share?
Davis McCarnOwnerCommented:
Yes, VSS is shadow copy.
Choose incremental and leave everything else as default (don't zip!).
you can use a file share over a remote link, but its not ideal. A VPN connection helps. Robocopy will restart if the link drops. But looking at the recent updates to Cobian it is a much better solution
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
tx - any what to restore automatically from Cobian - the incremental makes a directory structure but very difficult to see where the changed files are
Davis McCarnOwnerCommented:
If you view details and sort by Date Modified, the new files should b easy to find.  To restore, just copy the folder(s) back.
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
Would be if they were single files but many subdirectories and these don't have  changed date modified.
Davis McCarnOwnerCommented:
Then they will be in the initial backup and not copied again until they get modified.
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
Does Cobian have no way to restore automatically?
Davis McCarnOwnerCommented:
Nobody's backup software has an automatic restore nor would you want it to.  You don't need a restore until something happens to the source folders.
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
I'm asking if Cobian has a restore routine one can run when needed.
Davis McCarnOwnerCommented:
When all you need to do is to copy and paste anything you want restored, why do you need a restore function?
No, there is no restore function built into Cobian Backup:
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
Just a pain with incremental as creates many empty directories each day!
Davis McCarnOwnerCommented:
Not with Cobian; the My Documents folder, for example, will be made to match each time it runs so you only have one thing to copy it back!
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
Something wrong then as each incremental zip has all the subfolders in My Documents in it but they all empty...
Davis McCarnOwnerCommented:
I told you to quit zipping them!
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:

Its a relatively big upload time saving if I choose "zip each file individually".
What is the disadvantage of this?
Davis McCarnOwnerCommented:
The fact that you have to restore all of the incrementals!
Once the initial backup has completed, if it is set for incremental, Cobian will only need to backup any new or changed files so the subsequent backups are much, much faster.
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
There is an option under Zip to "Zip each file individually".
I've chosen this option. Do you not recommend this?
Davis McCarnOwnerCommented:
I do not recommend zipping the backup, at all!
It may seem to be a way to save time; but, the backup destination will NOT be something you can simply download and be back in business.
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
One can do an extract all - restores very quickly??
Davis McCarnOwnerCommented:
If you don't zip it you don't have to extract it either.
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
Pls see Cobian help file - re zipping - didn't quite understand the issue with incremental backups that refer to....
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
Warning: the archive attributes will be cleared before uploading. That will cause the attributes to be cleared even if the upload fails, eventually breaking the incremental logic. To prevent this, do not use compression or encryption with FTP destinations
   Can one prevent this issue?
Davis McCarnOwnerCommented:
"To prevent this, do not use compression (meaning zipping!) or encryption with FTP destinations"

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shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
If backup was interrupted - any way to restart - we have frequent power failures here...
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