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Hyper-V vs VMware Clusters
Hi Experts,
We currently has a VMware cluster running in our production environment and we are about to renew our lease. We have two sites and we are using SRM between the for site recovery between sites.
We are entertaining the idea to switch from VMware to MS Hyper-V for our production environment.
My questions,
What are your thoughts on VMWARE VS Hyper-V ?
Please let me know your thoughts
We currently has a VMware cluster running in our production environment and we are about to renew our lease. We have two sites and we are using SRM between the for site recovery between sites.
We are entertaining the idea to switch from VMware to MS Hyper-V for our production environment.
My questions,
What are your thoughts on VMWARE VS Hyper-V ?
Please let me know your thoughts
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Hyper-V Replica is no replacement for SRM.
Hyper-V Recovery Manager is kind of the equivalent of SRM, and that's additional cost, with Windows Azure.
Hyper-V replica is maybe the same as vSphere Replication!
read these by fellow vExperts...
http://www.mikelaverick.com/2013/11/windows-hyper-v-2012-replicas-things-arent-always-as-they-seem/
Do you mean the VMware Support Renewal ?
Do you take out a support Contract with Microsoft ?
Hyper-V Recovery Manager is kind of the equivalent of SRM, and that's additional cost, with Windows Azure.
Hyper-V replica is maybe the same as vSphere Replication!
read these by fellow vExperts...
http://www.mikelaverick.com/2013/11/windows-hyper-v-2012-replicas-things-arent-always-as-they-seem/
Do you mean the VMware Support Renewal ?
Do you take out a support Contract with Microsoft ?
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Yes, vmware renewal, sorry.
No, we currently do not have a support contract with Microsoft that why I am doing the ground work. thanks
No, we currently do not have a support contract with Microsoft that why I am doing the ground work. thanks
I suggest looking at the new Windows Server Technical Preview. The new feature set is especially good for clusters, stretch clusters, and storage.
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Okay
VMware vSphere 6.0 is released soon!
Do you want an upgrade for FREE or NOT ?
Do you want an upgrade for FREE or NOT ?
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I personally prefer the VMware virtual environment which is what we have In our production environment.
We have some team members pushing for Hpyer-V clustering to replace our vmware infrastructure .
As you mentioned, Hpyer-V looks cheaper $ vs vmware until something goes wrong.
We have some team members pushing for Hpyer-V clustering to replace our vmware infrastructure .
As you mentioned, Hpyer-V looks cheaper $ vs vmware until something goes wrong.
As you have already purchased VMware vSphere licenses and Microsoft Windows licenses, the question is ongoing support and subscription for VMware or Microsoft?
Which are optional.
VMware bundles subscription with it's Support contract, which entitles you to upgrade to vSphere 6.0 for FREE.
You would have to check with Microsoft what Licensing Contract you would need to upgrade to the next version of Windows Server for FREE...
But Microsoft Support Contracts and Software Assurance are usually two different bundles.
So to cost compare like to like, you would need to compare
VMware Support and Subscription versus Microsoft Support Contracts and Software Assurance.
Currently you do not have a Microsoft Support contract which leaves you at risk, if a MIcrosoft Product fails.
Ask them to test it and demo it versus VMware vSphere!
Which are optional.
VMware bundles subscription with it's Support contract, which entitles you to upgrade to vSphere 6.0 for FREE.
You would have to check with Microsoft what Licensing Contract you would need to upgrade to the next version of Windows Server for FREE...
But Microsoft Support Contracts and Software Assurance are usually two different bundles.
So to cost compare like to like, you would need to compare
VMware Support and Subscription versus Microsoft Support Contracts and Software Assurance.
Currently you do not have a Microsoft Support contract which leaves you at risk, if a MIcrosoft Product fails.
We have some team members pushing for Hpyer-V clustering to replace our vmware infrastructure .
Ask them to test it and demo it versus VMware vSphere!
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I am running multiple Hyper-V clusters and got a stable environment now. With the release of Windows server 2012 R2, Hyper-V really improved a lot. And on each version, I gain more confidence. No down time due to an issue with Hyper-V.
From my view point, both are good hypervisors. An apple to apple comparison on the minute features is required to conclude which one is best for your environment. On a general comparison, Vmware may have slight advantage when compared to the features they offer. At the same time, its also crucial to review what features you need for your environment.
Good luck !
From my view point, both are good hypervisors. An apple to apple comparison on the minute features is required to conclude which one is best for your environment. On a general comparison, Vmware may have slight advantage when compared to the features they offer. At the same time, its also crucial to review what features you need for your environment.
Good luck !
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Thank you for your responses, I appreciate it. We meet this week to decided the verdict of which way we will proceed.
Did you build your Hyper-V virtual environment from scratch, or did you have another migrate from a pervious virtual environment ?
Thanks
Did you build your Hyper-V virtual environment from scratch, or did you have another migrate from a pervious virtual environment ?
Thanks
We build them always from scratch. especially if using SCVMM 2012 R2!
In an existing AD environment we would stand up our clusters based on fresh installs of the OS.
I suggest having a domain linked root OU in AD with nested OUs for your cluster nodes and any management desktop OS systems to allow for customized GPOs that make things fairly simple for management.
The process from there is fairly straight forward:
+ Storage configuration: Need witness disk (1.5GB) and common files storage (Sum Node RAM + 50GB or so)
+ Node OS setup (We install on Core but Full can be utilized)
+ Drivers
+ Networking (Depending on topology we team as follows; 2 ports Management, 2 ports dedicated vSwitch)
+ Test-Cluster - Validation (Note that any NIC/Team with an IP should/must be on a separate subnet)
+ New-Cluster - Stand up the cluster
+ Verify Witness/Quorum assigned to the small LUN
+ CSV Common Files LUN and any other
+ Hyper-V Nodes: Set Hyper-V Configuration and VHD Location to C:\ClusterStorage\Volume# (Common Files)
That's a pretty high view of the overall cluster setup process that we run. Our steps are entirely in PowerShell.
I suggest having a domain linked root OU in AD with nested OUs for your cluster nodes and any management desktop OS systems to allow for customized GPOs that make things fairly simple for management.
The process from there is fairly straight forward:
+ Storage configuration: Need witness disk (1.5GB) and common files storage (Sum Node RAM + 50GB or so)
+ Node OS setup (We install on Core but Full can be utilized)
+ Drivers
+ Networking (Depending on topology we team as follows; 2 ports Management, 2 ports dedicated vSwitch)
+ Test-Cluster - Validation (Note that any NIC/Team with an IP should/must be on a separate subnet)
+ New-Cluster - Stand up the cluster
+ Verify Witness/Quorum assigned to the small LUN
+ CSV Common Files LUN and any other
+ Hyper-V Nodes: Set Hyper-V Configuration and VHD Location to C:\ClusterStorage\Volume# (Common Files)
That's a pretty high view of the overall cluster setup process that we run. Our steps are entirely in PowerShell.
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Thank you!
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Yes, if we go with Hper-v, we would replace SRM with Hyper-V Replica.
The reason why Hper-V came up was because of the VMware renewal license cost vs the MS license cost for Hyper-V.