Save Excel as tab delimited

We have an excel spreadsheet that we save as a tab delimited (.txt) file for subsequent uploading to a web server for loading into a web database table.

I have done this for years; seems to function correctly using a Windows (7 or XP) PC.

A current customer uses a Mac. When they save an Excel sheet as tab delimited, there are no line breaks between the rows so the entire sheet is one massive blob. Of course, the web upload fails.

Is there an option one must use on the Mac to make it work like it does on a PC?

Note I DO NOT have a Mac, I am taking this from the customer, they emailed me the file & it was like I indicated.

Thanks
Richard KortsAsked:
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strungCommented:
The problem is likely the difference between Mac and Windows line breaks.

Mac uses an ASCII "carriage return" at the end of each line.
Windows uses an ASCII "carriage return" plus an ASCII "line feed" at the end of each line.

When Excel on a Mac is saved as Tab Delimited it uses only carriage returns for the line breaks, no line feeds.

This can be solved at the Mac end if the user then opens the Tab Delimited file in the freeware TextWrangler ( http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/download.html ), then does a "save as" choosing "Windows (CRLF)" in the save as dialogue box for the "Line Breaks" option. This saved file should then have the proper Windows line breaks.
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strungCommented:
Although I haven't tried it, I am told that if you set your FTP program to upload a text file as "ASCII" instead of "Binary",  it will change the line breaks automatically. You might give that a try.
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Richard KortsAuthor Commented:
To strung,

Thanks.

The process uses php programs to do the upload, so there is no ftp involved (directly). The file is specified in a "file" input element on an html page.

I might be able to get the customer to do TextWrangler thing.
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serialbandCommented:
You can also do it yourself on Windows with tofrodos.

http://www.thefreecountry.com/tofrodos/

Here's the sourceforge site link to the zip file  http://tofrodos.sourceforge.net/download/tfd1713.zip


You can also download the mac2dos, unix2dos, dos2mac, unix2mac programs to install on your Windows system to run them in your DOS Prompt or PowerShell:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/cs-cmdtools/files/
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tel2Commented:
Hi rkorts,

If changing the web server's PHP process is an option for you, then that might be the best long term, as it will save your (current and any future) Mac customers from having to do extra processing at their end, which is just a hassle for them.

So, I would suggest you change the PHP process so that after the file is uploaded, it automatically converts all the files into the same format before it continues with the process.  You could either:
a) Leave the Mac/Linux (LF line terminator) files as is, change all DOS/Windows (CR-LF line terminators) versions to LF only, then change your processing to accept LF line-terminators.
Or probably more simply:
b) Just change the Mac/Linux (LF line terminator) files to the DOS/Windows (CR-LF line terminators) style.

Another option is:
c) Just change the final processing so it accepts files with both types of line terminator.

tel2
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