Cuban Embassy on US Soil?
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¤ Your Opinion on change to relations with Cuba?
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Transcript: Obama’s remarks on U.S.-Cuba relations
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/transcript-obamas-remarks-on-us-cuba-relations/2014/12/17/08366538-8612-11e4-9534-f79a23c40e6c_story.html - December 17, 2014
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I think I responded in the wrong thread.
What me worry.
What me worry.
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Or maybe more like a Rand Paul than a Ted Cruz. I admit I tend to lean more towards Obama having read long ago his recreational preference of playing of poker, so I can retain imagination of cards held closely - this be example (of the 'news' not leaked or pre-guessed). Poker is a far different game than golf or checkers.
I differ a bit on the 'collapse', in that I think more that the us vs them mentality is US citizenry vs Cuban leadership. All getting older, getting put to pasture. The swap of the brothers has already begun internal evolution, although the pace, the rate may be less than some would desire. The brothers are likely to be attempting to address what is to happen when they are gone, at least off-stage.
I thought I heard or read somewhere that US does not have her 'friends' participating in the prior embargoes, is essentially going it alone. Anyone know? If so, or not, I've dismay at the 'righteous' suggesting US would fare better by doubling up on embargo. um, like a for instance? If a something is not working, then it would be a wise move to try something else rather than underscore it. Unless goal is really to keep issue an ongoing problem.
With much dismay from those who favored Bays of Pigs, and want some US help to decide who runs that country and how they do it - I'd say get with it, it ain't a gonna happen, they are not going to just get handed a piece of the action - get over it, move on.
While part of question is trade relations, agreements, embedded somewhere was ... some behind scene deals regarding prisoner exchanges. I'd heard something about a spouse making objection. Huh? I later searched and did not see it in recent news, perhaps for the better.
Methinks best parallel is Viet Nam. And before that Japan. Some place both among top friendlies to USA. I was aware 'Nam relations improved, looks like I missed by how much it improved. Reasonings regarding Japan more documented/history. Still strange similarly, that for Germany. Didn't that lead to some suggestion, tongue in cheek, that to improve economy goal should be to attack USA and lose promptly? Maybe N Korea made insufficient review of 'facts'.
Now, back to original question.
On embassy? With who else is there none, oh, North Korea. IMO a different critter, that.
Oh, wait, this is a MQ, not really desiring any podium here, just towards getting some opportunity for comment if not dialog, will try to clam it <shuddup>.
So signing off the comment with question update. Did anyone notice news item of guy who been prisoner for like 20 years, comes home to find he still has same wife, um, wife is like 8 1/2 months pregnant ............
I differ a bit on the 'collapse', in that I think more that the us vs them mentality is US citizenry vs Cuban leadership. All getting older, getting put to pasture. The swap of the brothers has already begun internal evolution, although the pace, the rate may be less than some would desire. The brothers are likely to be attempting to address what is to happen when they are gone, at least off-stage.
I thought I heard or read somewhere that US does not have her 'friends' participating in the prior embargoes, is essentially going it alone. Anyone know? If so, or not, I've dismay at the 'righteous' suggesting US would fare better by doubling up on embargo. um, like a for instance? If a something is not working, then it would be a wise move to try something else rather than underscore it. Unless goal is really to keep issue an ongoing problem.
With much dismay from those who favored Bays of Pigs, and want some US help to decide who runs that country and how they do it - I'd say get with it, it ain't a gonna happen, they are not going to just get handed a piece of the action - get over it, move on.
While part of question is trade relations, agreements, embedded somewhere was ... some behind scene deals regarding prisoner exchanges. I'd heard something about a spouse making objection. Huh? I later searched and did not see it in recent news, perhaps for the better.
Methinks best parallel is Viet Nam. And before that Japan. Some place both among top friendlies to USA. I was aware 'Nam relations improved, looks like I missed by how much it improved. Reasonings regarding Japan more documented/history. Still strange similarly, that for Germany. Didn't that lead to some suggestion, tongue in cheek, that to improve economy goal should be to attack USA and lose promptly? Maybe N Korea made insufficient review of 'facts'.
Now, back to original question.
On embassy? With who else is there none, oh, North Korea. IMO a different critter, that.
Oh, wait, this is a MQ, not really desiring any podium here, just towards getting some opportunity for comment if not dialog, will try to clam it <shuddup>.
So signing off the comment with question update. Did anyone notice news item of guy who been prisoner for like 20 years, comes home to find he still has same wife, um, wife is like 8 1/2 months pregnant ............
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Maybe like me, when considering title, were hearing initial political naysayers that they were against building the Embassy in Miami, or any where in Florida. NYC known to use barge for outbound trash. NYC often cited as preferred LZ for Puerto Ricans, not so for Cubans.
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Wrapping: Seems here that I missed out on comments regarding Cuban trade sanctions by other countries. Be that as it may, selecting 'best' as:
> What good has 50 years of isolation been
- It just seems such a no brainer, che long gone an the brothers soon to depart, who are to be next?
> CUBA's system will collapse
> they will surely evolve
- I more agree with the latter part
> Cuban Embassy on a barge
- add casino?
> Relations have always tended to improve after U.S.A. (or other western or any other) government backs off from trying to control what goes on in a foreign country
- enough said.
- else choice becomes more of an empire vs rebel
- (among main mistakes in Middle East)
An estimated 2.0 million Hispanics of Cuban origin resided in the United States in 2011,
..
Immigration status. Nearly six-in-ten Cubans (58%) in the United States are foreign born compared with 36% of all Hispanics and 13% of the U.S. population overall. More than half of the immigrants from Cuba (52%) arrived in the U.S. in 1990 or later. More than half of Cuban immigrants (55%) are U.S. citizens.
> What good has 50 years of isolation been
- It just seems such a no brainer, che long gone an the brothers soon to depart, who are to be next?
> CUBA's system will collapse
> they will surely evolve
- I more agree with the latter part
> Cuban Embassy on a barge
- add casino?
> Relations have always tended to improve after U.S.A. (or other western or any other) government backs off from trying to control what goes on in a foreign country
- enough said.
- else choice becomes more of an empire vs rebel
- (among main mistakes in Middle East)
Hispanics of Cuban Origin in the United States, 2011
http://www.pewhispanic.org/2013/06/19/hispanics-of-cuban-origin-in-the-united-states-2011/ - BY ANNA BROWN AND EILEEN PATTENAn estimated 2.0 million Hispanics of Cuban origin resided in the United States in 2011,
..
Immigration status. Nearly six-in-ten Cubans (58%) in the United States are foreign born compared with 36% of all Hispanics and 13% of the U.S. population overall. More than half of the immigrants from Cuba (52%) arrived in the U.S. in 1990 or later. More than half of Cuban immigrants (55%) are U.S. citizens.
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Closing, thanks to all. Nothing that easy resolving politics.
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Jeb Bush 'actively exploring' Presidential run
Bush called it a "misstep" that "undermines America's credibility
And Rubio, the son of Cuban immigrants, vowed to ..block progress on policy..calling the policy "disgraceful."
Clinton said .. "the best way to bring change to Cuba is to expose its people to the values, information, and material comforts of the outside world."