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The Authentic Sayings of Jesus of Nazareth ?
The Authentic Sayings of Jesus of Nazareth
http://www.fchj.com/sayings.asp
Briefly, first (top) ten were (link has verbose):
1. Turn the Other Cheek:
2. Give Your Coat:
3. Blessed are the Poor:
4. Go the Second Mile:
5. Love Your Enemies:
6. The Leavened Bread:
7. Render to Caesar:
8. Give to Those Who Ask:
9. Blessed are the Hungry:
10. Blessed are Those Who Weep:
Simplifying MQ (attempt):
- Do these ten 'sound like' they be from same source, even today?
- Do you have another as preference for top ten list?
-- (likewise, to exclude one)
- Do try to discuss
[note to self: do try to find path to switch roles]
http://www.fchj.com/sayings.asp
Briefly, first (top) ten were (link has verbose):
1. Turn the Other Cheek:
2. Give Your Coat:
3. Blessed are the Poor:
4. Go the Second Mile:
5. Love Your Enemies:
6. The Leavened Bread:
7. Render to Caesar:
8. Give to Those Who Ask:
9. Blessed are the Hungry:
10. Blessed are Those Who Weep:
Simplifying MQ (attempt):
- Do these ten 'sound like' they be from same source, even today?
- Do you have another as preference for top ten list?
-- (likewise, to exclude one)
- Do try to discuss
[note to self: do try to find path to switch roles]
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> His importance is in his impact on people's lives.
Not the question, not in question. A subsequent question could be if result changed impact.
> I can always find some that seem not match up with others.
That is the question.
I think one survey used simple either/or balls, black and white. Where least match gets a black, one then has an extra white to cast. Then they add 'em up, but not approaching a form of acceptable math (math not the question)
> to capture effectively perfect images and sound recordings of what some people say
That I think was both for the question and the subsequent analysis (can meaning transmit over time)
> None seem more or less likely to me.
-and, IMO any survey or poll should not ignore such a result, even were you intended participant - recognized theologian (especially so)
> We don't always know what we're saying in our own language.
I can readily admit to being prime example
> how to answer that other than pure speculation.
yes, that is the question - to speculate
Not the question, not in question. A subsequent question could be if result changed impact.
> I can always find some that seem not match up with others.
That is the question.
I think one survey used simple either/or balls, black and white. Where least match gets a black, one then has an extra white to cast. Then they add 'em up, but not approaching a form of acceptable math (math not the question)
> to capture effectively perfect images and sound recordings of what some people say
That I think was both for the question and the subsequent analysis (can meaning transmit over time)
> None seem more or less likely to me.
-and, IMO any survey or poll should not ignore such a result, even were you intended participant - recognized theologian (especially so)
> We don't always know what we're saying in our own language.
I can readily admit to being prime example
> how to answer that other than pure speculation.
yes, that is the question - to speculate
ASKER
[Abandoned (3 Days)]
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I think part of concluding of above is that answering well - or even not well is a little beyond reach.
Unasked/unanswered is my own tendency to report that while majority believe there was a human referred to as Jesus -> none think he wrote down squat to mistranslate or not - and likely none (but rambunctious kid Mark) ever wrote either during lifetime of that person.
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I think part of concluding of above is that answering well - or even not well is a little beyond reach.
Unasked/unanswered is my own tendency to report that while majority believe there was a human referred to as Jesus -> none think he wrote down squat to mistranslate or not - and likely none (but rambunctious kid Mark) ever wrote either during lifetime of that person.
ASKER
Play it again, Sam.
Excuse me while I kiss this guy
Beam me up, Scotty
Although the 2nd was used by the artist after hearing of it, going with flow to point of identifying the guy on stage
We're also rather dodging any notion of science being part of assessments, or whether one can be that objective about the subjective.
But idea's that if compilation are attributed to single person, then which would be most likely to have been from that person? Can you try hand at one, or three?
This also dodges question of originality, where person may simply be quoting/misquoting someone else, it being that their choice to say it was of value.
I'll give it a whack, and likely make it up differently another day:
1. Turn the Other Cheek:
- I can be hesitant. not wanting to overreact - or misinterpret
?. Do unto others
- Makes sense, balance to get free will, and compadre
4. Go the Second Mile:
- While preferring to watch from sidelines, I tend to side with "In for a dime, in for a dollar", be a 'can do', and get to be a little feisty while at it. I don't think I'd do a third mile.
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Those I can agree on then for some individual, while as for the person in question, it has to be #1
7. Render to Caesar:
Because of the politics of the end game needs it, it makes sense then, although I cannot think up a modern or personal equivalent. The other quotes are more about the gathering of the flock.
I can also be partial to giving, opposed to loaning/lending to or from others. Saves on details and collection grief. So some other day I might prefer some quote on those lines.