Windows 8.1 calculator: how to minimize (and bring up smaller calculator)

Hello,

In Win8.1 the default calculator seems to be the app that takes up your entire screen. While it's very easy to use and view, there are a couple of issues that are getting in my way, so to speak. :)

1. How do I minimize it? There seems to be no way to do so, which is inconvenient. I was going back and forth from a Word document containing some numbers and the calculator, and I'd rather not have to restart the calculator each time.

2. Is there way/option for me to use the old, smaller calculator? Sometimes, I don't want the calculator to take up the whole screen, since I like to view both the calculator and another application(s) at the same time.

Thanks,
Steve
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JohnConnect With a Mentor Business Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Here is the way to create a "start menu" in Windows 8 / 8.1 (Works in Windows 7 and 10)

Right Click on the Taskbar
Select Toolbar, New Toolbar
Add the following content in the space provided:

%ProgramData%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

Save the toolbar. It should call itself Programs.
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McKnifeConnect With a Mentor Commented:
Use the oldschool calculator: press winkey+r,  then type calc
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Add a Start Menu to Windows 8

Right Click on the Taskbar
Select Toolbar, New Toolbar
Add the following content in the space provided:
%ProgramData%Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
Save the toolbar. It should call itself Programs.

The Calculator (and lots of other stuff) is in Accessories.
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Stephen KairysTechnical Writer - ConsultantAuthor Commented:
@McKnife - I'l try that. Thanks.

@John - what if I don't want to have a start menu? Thanks to you too.

Will try these later as I have to step out for a while.

Steve
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
What I gave you is a Programs menu that sits neatly on the right side and gives you access to Everything on your desktop. No harm in making it, and it does not get in the way. You can use it or not as needed .  It is made from the operating system (no added software).
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rindiCommented:
There's a "-" sign in the calculator's taskbar (move the mouse to the top of the page). Click on that to minimize it.
You can also right click it's icon before starting it and then select "uninstall". After that the crapp calc shouldn't get in the way anymore.
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Stephen KairysTechnical Writer - ConsultantAuthor Commented:
@Rindi - I don't see the "-" sign at the top. Only the little green icon in the upper left corner, and the X in the upper right.

McKnife. Using the RUN command for CALC worked great. Now, out of curiosity, I was wondering where the EXE is located, so I searched my C drive and came up with:

C:\Windows\System32\calc.exe

C:\Windows\SysWOW64\calc.exe

C:\Windows\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft-windows-calc_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.16384_none_9a7c6145eeb2fe71\calc.exe

C:\Windows\WinSxS\wow64_microsoft-windows-calc_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.16384_none_a4d10b982313c06c\calc.exe


Which CALC.EXE is it?

@John - I am trying your suggestion now. Will get back to you soon.

Thanks, all.
Steve
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Stephen KairysTechnical Writer - ConsultantAuthor Commented:
@John,
I tried your instructions but did not get further than this screen. I don't see a way to save the new taskbar. Thanks.

Trying to add a taskbar for start menu
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
On the screen shot above, click on Select Folder.  That does the save. Follow with my instructions above.
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Stephen KairysTechnical Writer - ConsultantAuthor Commented:
OK. I tried that but got the following error:
More adding start menu
Thanks.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Start typing the path and let it work with you creating the path. Your path may be a bit different from mine. Print out the path above so you can see it, then start typing it and adjust to where start menu and programs are on your machine.

I hope you can get this working. I have done it for others and it works fine.
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Stephen KairysTechnical Writer - ConsultantAuthor Commented:
OK I'll try it. Don't have a working printer at the moment so will try to keep your text on the screen or -- worst case -- write it down with pen and paper! :) Thanks.
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McKnifeCommented:
John has a typo in his suggestion. It should have been
%ProgramData%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs (note the additional backslash after %ProgramData%)

calc.exe is in c:\windows\system32\calc.exe
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Stephen KairysTechnical Writer - ConsultantAuthor Commented:
John,

OK, Windows did not seem to want to auto-complete for me, so I used brute force. I navigated down my directory tree via the command prompt to here:

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs>

I then pasted THIS path and it seemed to work.

Now, at the lower right of my taskbar, I see...

Programs on the right of the taskbar
If I click on the double arrow thingy to the "northeast" of Programs I am in business.

OK, then you will get points for this answer. Up to you if you want to repost with the correct path so that others can see the solution correctly.

Thanks!
Steve
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
The "Programs" in your taskbar looks fine. Open it up and Everything is there.

I fixed my OneNote for future use.  Thank you.
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Stephen KairysTechnical Writer - ConsultantAuthor Commented:
OneNote?
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
I keep a lot of EE stuff in One Note for easy reference, copy and paste into an answer.
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Stephen KairysTechnical Writer - ConsultantAuthor Commented:
OK thanks.
Btw, I right clicked on the choice for calculator and sent the icon to my desktop.
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Stephen KairysTechnical Writer - ConsultantAuthor Commented:
Hey John, could you please re-post your solution to this thread w/the correct path? That way I can simply accept that as the best solution. Thanks.
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Stephen KairysTechnical Writer - ConsultantAuthor Commented:
Funny thing: it worked for me w/o the %'s. Are those optional?
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JohnConnect With a Mentor Business Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Yes, the % may be optional and just says "system path"
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rindiCommented:
If the "-" isn't there, you probably haven't a fully upgraded system. Run all windows updates, particularly the "update1", which is quite large (more than 600MB and adds new functions to Windows 8.1, similar to a servicepack). This "servicepack" is required for Windows 8.1, otherwise you won't get most updates after that. If I'm not mistaken, the "-" or minimize feature for crapps was added with that update.
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Stephen KairysTechnical Writer - ConsultantAuthor Commented:
@John, thanks again. I gave points for your last two comments just to be safe.

@McKnife: Points to you, too for the "RUN" suggestion. Thanks!

As usual, I am so grateful to be a part of EE and receive such patient and knowledgeable help!

Steve
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Stephen KairysTechnical Writer - ConsultantAuthor Commented:
RIndi, Thanks. I'll check on the update for Win8.1.
Steve
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
@stevefromc  - Thank you and good luck. I use "Programs" all the time.
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Stephen KairysTechnical Writer - ConsultantAuthor Commented:
@John,
Yeah, I'm having a bit of a learning curve in 8.1 but it's not horrid. As I'm currently between jobs, I'm welcoming the chance to deal with the learning curve at my leisure at home, rather than after I've secured a new position and would have tons of other things to assimilate!

Thanks again,

Steve
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
No problem Steve.

Look at my article "Ways to improve Windows 8"  It has a collection of tips on Windows 8.

http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Microsoft_Operating_Systems/Windows/A_16620-Ways-to-improve-Windows-8.html
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