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Why are 'PUT' and 'DELETE' considered idempotent?

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Why are 'PUT' and 'DELETE' considered idempotent?
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To quote this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertext_Transfer_Protocol#Idempotent_methods_and_web_applications
PUT and DELETE are defined to be idempotent, meaning that multiple identical requests should have the same effect as a single request
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by:KPax
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I know how to use wikipedia, thank you.
How comes that would be the true?
If you have resource on server and DELETE it you will get 200 or 202, then the next DELETE wouldn't have same effect as you already deleted resource and you will get 404. And what if I PUT some resource on server that irreversibly changes/affect state of some other component (DB record maybie)?
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In theory, only POST method is supposed to be used to change something like a database record.
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So, would you agree that in practice PUT and DELETE might not be idempotent all of the time? Depending on circumstances of  course - programmers error, intention, inexperience etc?
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Yes, I agree... except I never use that word, 'idempotent'.  It doesn't describe any of the things you mention.  I don't have any hosting that uses PUT and DELETE.  At least not that I know of.
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Additional thought and clarification from me regarding question.
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