Running SBS 2008 as an Exchange Server only along with Server 2012 Essentails
A company I know is currently run an SBS 2008 Server with 11 Workstations running WIndows 7.
The Server and Workstation are around 5 years old and they had a hard drive issue the other day. Thankfully, they are running Raid 5 over Three Hard drives so it is just a case of replacing the Hard Drive.
This, however, has got them thinking about replacing the Server. I have looked into the options and I think Windows Server 2012 Essentials would be the best bet. However, I realise it does not come with Exchange as SBS does.
I have mentioned using other alternatives like Office 365 but they don't see the subscription model as cost effective as a in-house Exchange Server especially when they have a Server already doing this work and could even be used for this purpose.
Forgetting the argument that they could just continue as they are with the SBS 2008 server, I would like to ask if it is possible to run SBS 2008 as just an Exchange server along side Server 2012 Essentials and, if so, how?
I know the "How" bit might be too long for an answer here but if anybody has any links to reference material on this or any further suggestions as the best way to go forward, I would be very grateful.
The Server and Workstation are around 5 years old and they had a hard drive issue the other day. Thankfully, they are running Raid 5 over Three Hard drives so it is just a case of replacing the Hard Drive.
This, however, has got them thinking about replacing the Server. I have looked into the options and I think Windows Server 2012 Essentials would be the best bet. However, I realise it does not come with Exchange as SBS does.
I have mentioned using other alternatives like Office 365 but they don't see the subscription model as cost effective as a in-house Exchange Server especially when they have a Server already doing this work and could even be used for this purpose.
Forgetting the argument that they could just continue as they are with the SBS 2008 server, I would like to ask if it is possible to run SBS 2008 as just an Exchange server along side Server 2012 Essentials and, if so, how?
I know the "How" bit might be too long for an answer here but if anybody has any links to reference material on this or any further suggestions as the best way to go forward, I would be very grateful.
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What applications do you want to configure on Windows 2012 server?
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Thanks for your reply.
The answer is the 2012 Server will essentially be a file and Domain server. Folder redirection and backup of the workstations, general shared company folders, the master computer for a network version of Sage Accounts and that's about it.
The answer is the 2012 Server will essentially be a file and Domain server. Folder redirection and backup of the workstations, general shared company folders, the master computer for a network version of Sage Accounts and that's about it.
Yes it can be done. you can set 2012 DC in existing windows 2008 DC.
Refer http://kpytko.pl/active-directory-domain-services/adding-first-windows-server-2012-domain-controller-within-windows-200320082008r2-network/
Refer http://kpytko.pl/active-directory-domain-services/adding-first-windows-server-2012-domain-controller-within-windows-200320082008r2-network/
You cannot do what you want. Essentials is the spiritual successor to SBS and, as such, has the same licensing restrictions. You cannot have two SBS servers, two essentials servers, or two servers running a combination of SBS and essentials on the same domain.
ASKER
Thanks for your answers.
What you be your recommendation(s) to replace the old SBS 2008 Server if on-site Exchange email were required?
What you be your recommendation(s) to replace the old SBS 2008 Server if on-site Exchange email were required?
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Agreed with Cliff. Just ensure that on the physical server you install only the Hyper-V role.
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ASKER
Thanks again for your help.
Is it possible to run Exchange on the Server 2012 standard edition or do you need to run separately on VM's / Servers.?
I haven't really touched the new Server OS's ( Since 2008 ) and all this Virtual stuff is new to me aswell!
Is it possible to run Exchange on the Server 2012 standard edition or do you need to run separately on VM's / Servers.?
I haven't really touched the new Server OS's ( Since 2008 ) and all this Virtual stuff is new to me aswell!
You can run exchange on a physical server, sure. But then you are talking two server standard licenses. One for the DC and one for exchange. And you'd need two physical servers as well. Basically a fair bit more expensive. Which is fine if you don't mind the cost, but based on your comments regarding O365 being too expensive, it seemed like you were looking for ways to keep costs down.
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Cheers Cliff,
So it isn't possible just to install and run it on Server 2012 Standard - along with the other roles - in much the same way as was available on SBS?
It has to be run on a totally separate server whether physical or Virtual?
So it isn't possible just to install and run it on Server 2012 Standard - along with the other roles - in much the same way as was available on SBS?
It has to be run on a totally separate server whether physical or Virtual?
The web services provided by the exchange role and the autodiscover, OWA, and Outlook Anywhere web services provided by exchange do not coexist well together. Additionally, running exchange on *any* domain controller, even without the essentials stuff, is contrary to recommended topologies, and generally speaking, bad things do happen to those who ignore this recommendation. So, in short, no. It would be a very unwise thing to attempt.
Not true. As Cliff pointed out earlier, Windows Server 2012 Essentials is the spiritual successor to Small Business Server. You can definitely run this as a standalone server.
Edit: Clarification - Essentials is the spiritual successor, however it does not natively include email services (Microsoft's anticipation that system administrators and/or bean-counters would rather use O365).
Microsoft does provide a TID for integrating an On-Premise (means second server) Exchange 2013 with Windows Server 2012 Essentials though. This is why the push for using one Physical with 2 VM's.
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj200172.aspx
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Edit: Clarification - Essentials is the spiritual successor, however it does not natively include email services (Microsoft's anticipation that system administrators and/or bean-counters would rather use O365).
Microsoft does provide a TID for integrating an On-Premise (means second server) Exchange 2013 with Windows Server 2012 Essentials though. This is why the push for using one Physical with 2 VM's.
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj200172.aspx
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ASKER
Thanks for all your answers.
It certainly looks like Windows 2012 Standard and Exchange as a VM.
Now all I need to know is how to migrate it all from the SBS server but I think that is another question entirely.
Thanks again and the points go to Cliff as he came up with the original solution.
Thanks Again.
It certainly looks like Windows 2012 Standard and Exchange as a VM.
Now all I need to know is how to migrate it all from the SBS server but I think that is another question entirely.
Thanks again and the points go to Cliff as he came up with the original solution.
Thanks Again.