scvmm 2012

I have a new virtual 2012 standard server. I need to download /install scvmm 2012 so that I can use this as a host for my new citrix delivery server 2008,  which is a requirement by Citrix.
I am unable to find the download of scvmm12 for windows 2012 standard server
jim3725Asked:
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Cliff GaliherCommented:
SCVMM is not a virtualization  platform. It does not and cannot host anything. It is a *management* platform for managing and controlling large hyper-V and VMWare farms.  I strongly recommend reviewing the system requirements for your needs, as I suspect you missed something.

With that said, if you need/want SCVMM, it isn't free. You need to buy "system center" (that's the SC in SCVMM) and SCVMM will be one of the components you get for that purchase. System Center is only sold as an entire suite. You can't buy just SCVMM standalone.
jim3725Author Commented:
Cliff, I was referring to host as what citrix uses it for their 7.6 xenapp installation.
I have a  server 2012 standard server, please confirm once I purchase system center that it will run on this 2012 standard server.
Cliff GaliherCommented:
Yes, SCVMM 2012 can run on windows server 2012.
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jim3725Author Commented:
Cliff, Can you get me a link on what server roles and features that  are needed on server for scvmm 2012 for prior installation?
Cliff GaliherCommented:
jim3725Author Commented:
Cliff, I understand that I need full sql version, but can't I point it to an existing sql server and create a new instance on that sql server, so I don't have to purchase a separate sql server license?
Cliff GaliherCommented:
Of course.
jim3725Author Commented:
I have windows standard server 2012.  My reseller said that scvmm is part of the windows 2012 volume licensing.
I am at a standstill on how /where I can download/install scvmm onto this virtual standard 2012 server.
Cliff GaliherCommented:
Your reseller is wrong. SCVMM is not a part of windows at all.
jim3725Author Commented:
ok, I figured that out too. I have the link  https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg610656.aspx but it doesn't explain how to install it within the server. Do I need to have a local copy of sql installed on the standard 2012 as prerequisite to adding the virtual machine manager?
Cliff GaliherCommented:
Local copy? No. It can be remote. But yes, you must have a SQL server set up and running.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg610574.aspx
jim3725Author Commented:
I have an existing sql 2008 server running, How do I create an instance for  this server 2012 ? What do I need to install on the 2012 server?
Cliff GaliherCommented:
That question is far too broad to cover in an EE answer. You already posted a link to the SCVMM install instructions. I'm afraid if that, along with the many other tutorials on the web, aren't enough, you really will need more help than EE could provide and hiring a local consultant wouldn't be a bad idea.
jim3725Author Commented:
Just tell me if I am required to install any sql software on the server 2012 which will use an instance on the existing sql server 2008?
Cliff GaliherCommented:
The system requirements of the management server are here. As you can see, there is some SQL client (command line) requirements for some features.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg610562.aspx
jim3725Author Commented:
Cliff: I have installed system center manager console, When I try to connect, then I get error message of data access service not running or not initialized. I have Microsoft System Center Service Manage SP1 installed
I never got any prompts to install the db options.
Additional info from error:
Date: 3/17/2015 2:48:32 PM
Application: System Center Service Manager Console
Application Version: 7.0.6555.0
Severity: Error
Message: Failed to connect to server 'SCVMM12'

Microsoft.EnterpriseManagement.Common.ServiceNotRunningException: The Data Access service is either not running or not yet initialized. Check the event log for more information. ---> System.ServiceModel.EndpointNotFoundException: Could not connect to net.tcp://scvmm12:5724/DispatcherService. The connection attempt lasted for a time span of 00:00:02.0308714. TCP error code 10061: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it 192.168.4.12:5724.  ---> System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it 192.168.4.12:5724
   at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.DoConnect(EndPoint endPointSnapshot, SocketAddress socketAddress)
   at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.Connect(EndPoint remoteEP)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.SocketConnectionInitiator.Connect(Uri uri, TimeSpan timeout)
   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---

Server stack trace:
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.SocketConnectionInitiator.Connect(Uri uri, TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.BufferedConnectionInitiator.Connect(Uri uri, TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ConnectionPoolHelper.EstablishConnection(TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ClientFramingDuplexSessionChannel.OnOpen(TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.CommunicationObject.Open(TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.LayeredChannel`1.OnOpen(TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.CommunicationObject.Open(TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ServiceChannel.OnOpen(TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.CommunicationObject.Open(TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ServiceChannel.CallOnceManager.CallOnce(TimeSpan timeout, CallOnceManager cascade)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ServiceChannel.EnsureOpened(TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ServiceChannel.Call(String action, Boolean oneway, ProxyOperationRuntime operation, Object[] ins, Object[] outs, TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ServiceChannelProxy.InvokeService(IMethodCallMessage methodCall, ProxyOperationRuntime operation)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ServiceChannelProxy.Invoke(IMessage message)

Exception rethrown at [0]:
   at System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy.HandleReturnMessage(IMessage reqMsg, IMessage retMsg)
   at System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy.PrivateInvoke(MessageData& msgData, Int32 type)
   at Microsoft.EnterpriseManagement.Common.Internal.IDispatcherService.Connect(SdkClientConnectionOptions connectionOptions)
   at Microsoft.EnterpriseManagement.Common.Internal.SdkDataLayerProxyCore.ConnectInternal(EnterpriseManagementConnectionSettings connectionSettings)
   at Microsoft.EnterpriseManagement.Common.Internal.SdkDataLayerProxyCore.Initialize(EnterpriseManagementConnectionSettings connectionSettings, SdkChannelObject`1 channelObjectDispatcherService)
   at Microsoft.EnterpriseManagement.Common.Internal.SdkDataLayerProxyCore.CreateEndpoint[T](EnterpriseManagementConnectionSettings connectionSettings, SdkChannelObject`1 channelObjectDispatcherService)
   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
   at Microsoft.EnterpriseManagement.Common.Internal.ExceptionHandlers.HandleChannelExceptions(Exception ex)
   at Microsoft.EnterpriseManagement.Common.Internal.SdkDataLayerProxyCore.CreateEndpoint[T](EnterpriseManagementConnectionSettings connectionSettings, SdkChannelObject`1 channelObjectDispatcherService)
   at Microsoft.EnterpriseManagement.Common.Internal.SdkDataLayerProxyCore.ConstructEnterpriseManagementGroupInternal[T,P](EnterpriseManagementConnectionSettings connectionSettings, ClientDataAccessCore clientCallback)
   at Microsoft.EnterpriseManagement.Common.Internal.SdkDataLayerProxyCore.RetrieveEnterpriseManagementGroupInternal[T,P](EnterpriseManagementConnectionSettings connectionSettings, ClientDataAccessCore callbackDispatcherService)
   at Microsoft.EnterpriseManagement.Common.Internal.SdkDataLayerProxyCore.Connect[T,P](EnterpriseManagementConnectionSettings connectionSettings, ClientDataAccessCore callbackDispatcherService)
   at Microsoft.EnterpriseManagement.ServiceManagementGroup.InternalInitialize(EnterpriseManagementConnectionSettings connectionSettings, EnterpriseManagementGroupInternal internals)
   at Microsoft.EnterpriseManagement.ServiceManagementGroup..ctor(ServiceManagementConnectionSettings connectionSettings)
   at Microsoft.EnterpriseManagement.UI.SdkDataAccess.ManagementGroupSessionManager.Connect(String server)
   at Microsoft.EnterpriseManagement.ServiceManager.UI.Console.Credentials.ManagementGroupConnection.TryConnectToManagementGroupJob(Object sender, ConsoleJobEventArgs args)
System.ServiceModel.EndpointNotFoundException: Could not connect to net.tcp://scvmm12:5724/DispatcherService. The connection attempt lasted for a time span of 00:00:02.0308714. TCP error code 10061: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it 192.168.4.12:5724.  ---> System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it 192.168.4.12:5724
   at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.DoConnect(EndPoint endPointSnapshot, SocketAddress socketAddress)
   at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.Connect(EndPoint remoteEP)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.SocketConnectionInitiator.Connect(Uri uri, TimeSpan timeout)
   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---

Server stack trace:
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.SocketConnectionInitiator.Connect(Uri uri, TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.BufferedConnectionInitiator.Connect(Uri uri, TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ConnectionPoolHelper.EstablishConnection(TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ClientFramingDuplexSessionChannel.OnOpen(TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.CommunicationObject.Open(TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.LayeredChannel`1.OnOpen(TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.CommunicationObject.Open(TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ServiceChannel.OnOpen(TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.CommunicationObject.Open(TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ServiceChannel.CallOnceManager.CallOnce(TimeSpan timeout, CallOnceManager cascade)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ServiceChannel.EnsureOpened(TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ServiceChannel.Call(String action, Boolean oneway, ProxyOperationRuntime operation, Object[] ins, Object[] outs, TimeSpan timeout)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ServiceChannelProxy.InvokeService(IMethodCallMessage methodCall, ProxyOperationRuntime operation)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ServiceChannelProxy.Invoke(IMessage message)

Exception rethrown at [0]:
   at System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy.HandleReturnMessage(IMessage reqMsg, IMessage retMsg)
   at System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy.PrivateInvoke(MessageData& msgData, Int32 type)
   at Microsoft.EnterpriseManagement.Common.Internal.IDispatcherService.Connect(SdkClientConnectionOptions connectionOptions)
   at Microsoft.EnterpriseManagement.Common.Internal.SdkDataLayerProxyCore.ConnectInternal(EnterpriseManagementConnectionSettings connectionSettings)
   at Microsoft.EnterpriseManagement.Common.Internal.SdkDataLayerProxyCore.Initialize(EnterpriseManagementConnectionSettings connectionSettings, SdkChannelObject`1 channelObjectDispatcherService)
   at Microsoft.EnterpriseManagement.Common.Internal.SdkDataLayerProxyCore.CreateEndpoint[T](EnterpriseManagementConnectionSettings connectionSettings, SdkChannelObject`1 channelObjectDispatcherService)
System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it 192.168.4.12:5724
   at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.DoConnect(EndPoint endPointSnapshot, SocketAddress socketAddress)
   at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.Connect(EndPoint remoteEP)
   at System.ServiceModel.Channels.SocketConnectionInitiator.Connect(Uri uri, TimeSpan timeout)
Cliff GaliherCommented:
System center service manager is an *entirely* different thing. It has nothing to do with SCVMM and has different requirements, requires different planning, and more. You are having issues because you installed the wrong thing.
jim3725Author Commented:
yes, I figured that  out. Sorry. I unistalled it.
I did download systemcenter 2012 virtual machine manager r2.
 http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=10712
jim3725Author Commented:
This downloaded and extracted a sc2012_vmm_evalvhd  hard disk image. I just wanted the eval download so I can install scvmm2012 virtual machine manager.
jim3725Author Commented:
This created a local disk of 17gb, E drive, taken space away from my C drive. I don't get it
Cliff GaliherCommented:
Eval VHDs are preconfigured, canned, virtual machine images for Hyper-V for limited evaluation scenarios. Depending on your environment, it *may* fit your needs, but that is unlikely.
jim3725Author Commented:
Where can I install the product without it being a evaluation vhd download? I can't seem to find this to download.
Cliff GaliherCommented:
Based on the evaluation guide, I believe the only evaluation media provided is the .vhd for use in a predefined lab environment. It seems likely Microsoft has pulled or did not make ISOs available due to piracy and abuse.
Cliff GaliherCommented:
Hmm. Just to verify, I went to the TechNet Eval center and registered to download the System Center 2012 R2 evaluation. Once registered, there was an EXE available for download for each of the System Center components. I downloaded the SCVMM exe, ran it, and it extracted the entire setup program into a folder on my system drive. There was no problem getting an eval for use in any environment. I'm not sure how much easier I can explain those steps!
jim3725Author Commented:
Maybe I just can't find the correct link to download this, it's getting frustrating.
jim3725Author Commented:
As we spoke I don't want the evaluation vhd download, I just want to install the exe.
Cliff GaliherCommented:
Well, the TechNet eval center is here:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/

And finding and clicking on System Center 2012 R2 goes here:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-system-center-2012-r2

And after registering, you get the image I've attached:

And clicking the lime green download button next to the SCVMM download pulled down a self-extracting file with the setup program that can be copied to a local drive, USB, DVD....

Where are you stuck??

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jim3725Author Commented:
Finally, I am downloading it. I guess I wasn't registering so I wasn't seeing the download green buttons.
Thanks for sticking with me on this.
jim3725Author Commented:
extremely helpful with assisting me to the correct url location for downloading.
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