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When I install Calibri light, Calibri bold, Calibri italic separately on Windows 7, they all show up as Calibri in the font directory.  I need to be able to access each one separately in a Filemaker Dbase.  How do I install them so they show up as separate fonts?
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They may not show up as separate because Windows or FileMaker groups them, but I'm pretty sure that when you select Calibri and make it bold, it will use Calibri Bold if it's available or apply Bold styling if it's not. I'm not 100% certain of this but I'm pretty sure that's how it works.
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there is a way to split, someone in the company did it years ago, but no one rememebers how. lol
Also, for purposes of filemaker programming we need them to split, not to use the bold key etc.
I used to work a great deal with font issues including creating some custom symbol fonts in Fontographer which might be one way to do it, create your own special font for each so they aren't grouped (but it would have to be on each computer that used the system). Can you explain more about why they need to be separated?
User generated imageUser generated image>> ... they all show up as Calibri in the font directory ...

Are you referring to how they appear when you view the C:\Windows\Fonts folder with File Explorer?

If so, this is how Windows shows font families when that special folder is viewed:



If you want to see the individual font file names (rather than the font names), view the folder contents using the DIR command within a command-prompt window:
You say "they show up separately in the font directory"? A "directory" usually means a folder on the hard drive but I assumed you meant in the font menu within FileMaker. Please clarify what you are looking at and also why you are needing to select them separately. If you don't need Calabri specifically but just need to see the separate cuttings of a font, it might work to purchase a font from Adobe or other source that has multiple cuttings and that is not automatically grouped by Windows.
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it is for a filemaker printing data base.  The fonts need to be separated.  Even if I buy them from Adobe, I think windows will combine them into a font "family" unless I can separate the family.
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How do I remove or change the family?
I'll still don't understand your specific need. Please explain what you mean by a "FileMaker Printing Database". Do you mean a database that displays each font, including each font cutting (Roman, Bold, Italic, Bold Italic, Med Bold, Extra Bold, Light, Condensed, Ornaments, etc.)? Are you dealing with fonts that have multiple cuttings beyond just the basic four of Roman/regular, bold, italic and bold italic?
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the filemaker dbase needs to display each cutting.  Right now it just displays Calibri.  But both Windows and Filemaker need to display the cutting: Calibri light, Calibri Bold, Calibri itialic etc.  This is for automation purposes.
Please give more specifics or an example file.
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? there is really no need for a specific file.  I want to figure out a way to install font cuts on WIndows.  Currenlty, windows 7 displays all the Calibri as one family.  I need this broken up, so Windows displays the fonts as: Calibri, Calibri Light, Calibri Bold.

There is really no point in attaching the Filemaker Dbase, design will not change, it is also proprietary.  If the fonts are broken up into cuttings, then the filemaker program will work as designed.
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Like Will Loving, I still don't understand your requirement; this may be due, in part (but only in part) because I have no knowledge or experience of FileMaker.

Note that Windows can show the members of a font family.

For example, the File Explorer Details view of the Fonts folder might show:

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Double-clicking the Calibri entry then brings up details of the fonts within that family:

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The above examples are from a Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit system; I don't have access to a Windows 7 system, but I assume that it will show something similar.
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>> ... If the fonts are broken up into cuttings, then the filemaker program will work as designed ...

So it seems that you have two choices:

Obtain (from where? at what cost?) modified fonts which have a different family name for each variant, so that Windows (and FileMaker?) do not group them.
Change the design of your 'filemaker program' (whatever that is).
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In regards to further information, I really really have to respectfully agree to disagree. I downloaded a freeware font editor (font forge) and I was able to change the family much like how described in ID: 40655224, but I must note in that thread he didn't tell me how he was able to accomplish changing the font family, he just attached the Calibri_bold font cutting. lol

I am excepting three comments

ID: 40654919 - actual solution  
ID: 40655224 - example font
ID: 40656178 - for your efforts
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In any case the solution did not require further information about the dbase.  I just inquired to find a way to split font cuttings/change the font family  regardless of the application.
>> ...  in that thread he didn't tell me how he was able to accomplish changing the font family, he just attached the Calibri_bold font ...

That was just a 'proof of concept' example.

The font editor application I used (not free) was Font Creator (see High Logic web site) - I would have told you that if you'd asked, but this is only one such application - you've found another (free) one.

Also, bear in  mind that the Calibri font is occasionally updated (with new versions of Windows, or Office, or via Windows update?), so when/if this happens, you may have to repeat your 'modification' exercise.
I agree with DansDadUK. I suggested the possibility of creating a new individual font for each cutting using Fontographer or other tool, but the issues are that: 1) It's now a new font and not the same as the original, 2) It might get updated as DansDadUK points out, and, 3) you would need to make new separate versions for every font required for the job/system, 4) the fonts would need to be on every computer running the system.
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thanks for the input!
I will note #2

As for numbers 1, 3, 4 however flawed, that's how they have things setup at this workplace.

thanks for all your help guys
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