How to share external harddrive on asus personal cellspot router

Hi techs.  Can anyone find the directions to share an external usb hard drive on a wireless home network?  It's not as easy as my other netgear router.
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAsked:
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Brian BEE Topic Advisor, Independant Technology ProfessionalCommented:
If you want to use the T-Mobile for anything besides a router between your own personal router and the internet, many of the thing you want to do may become impossible, or at least difficult to set up. You would probably need to understand how network routing works, but we'll see if other experts respond to the Request for Attention with other ideas.
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
are you plugging in the hard drive to the router or a machine.. a machine is the easiest but that machine must be running. if plugging into the router then you probably can't use ntfs but have to use fat32 file system
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
plugged into the router did you see the picture that I posted along with the main post? That is actually my router's interface where are you supposed to be able to share a hard drive
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
what if you enable the samba share?  (next button over)
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
Didn't really show how to make it work
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Brian BEE Topic Advisor, Independant Technology ProfessionalCommented:
So far you have set it up to use the drive as an iTunes share and a DNLA share. If you want to use it as a NAS, you'll need to set up the Samba file sharing in the next tab.

I was going to suggest checking the manual as well, but I couldn't find it online. I did find this FAQ though. It might help a bit.

http://www.asus.com/us/supportonly/TM-AC1900/
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
Is there a way to set it to just be an external hdd shared wirelessly?
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gheistCommented:
ASUS model number is:
http://www.asus.com/nl/Networking/RTAC68U/HelpDesk_Manual/
It may or may not apply to T-mobile tweaked firmware versions.

You can share your home network security concerns with T-Mobile as they do not produce documentation for their product.
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
What are the USB ports on it for?
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gheistCommented:
Ask T-Mobile who re-branded the router and flushed the documentation.
Or wait for OpenWRT to port their firmware to your router...
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
Not sure what that all means.  Sorry :(
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gheistCommented:
You have router without documentation. Just try what you need to see if it works. Over time it may be supported by opensource OpenWRT firmware which can split wired and wireless LAN ports properly
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
I've never done this and thers no documentation
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gheistCommented:
Exactly... Try to get ASUS documentation of this router (RTAC68U)  - maybe menus in different colour are in same places.
I'd wait month or three for OpenWRT to document is you have same or different hardware than ASUS.
On same hardware you can flash other firmware (but there is chance you brick it and will never be able to make usable again)
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
So are you guys telling me this router cant share the hdd?
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
I have another router that does share it.  I wonder if I can run both simultaneously?
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
we are not saying that just that t-mobile customized this router and there is no documentation on how to do it.
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
you may want to put dd-wrt on that router
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
Don't know what that is
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Brian BEE Topic Advisor, Independant Technology ProfessionalCommented:
You can't really run two router simultaneously, what you can do is plug one into the other. I do this a lot. Leaves the ISPs router alone and you don't have to mess with the weird implmentations of various features. Also saves you having to redo everything if the ISP upgrades your modem/router. Just plug the WAN (internet) port on your router into a LAN port on their router. The only think to be careful of is that you use a different DHCP range on yours than what your ISP router is using.
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
do i need to set up a dhcp server?  this is at home
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gheistCommented:
OMG
Switch off one of routers, remaining will suffice for your home.
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
then I cant connect the hdd
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
Look, I just want to figure out how to share the ext hdd.  Can you help or not?
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Brian BEE Topic Advisor, Independant Technology ProfessionalCommented:
Yes, you need to have DHCP otherwise any devices you hook up to your network won't be able to communicate.

Just so you know, dd-wrt is an open source router OS that you can install over the factory OS. It gives you a lot more control and generally runs better. However, it sounds like you probably don't need it for what you are trying to do.
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
Geez, it's better than the router's own os?
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
Would it allow me to share out that hdd?
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
yes and at least there is documentation and support available.
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
I wonder if tmobile would allow it?
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
And are we sure that this wont currently work?
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
We don't have access to the t-mobile version of the router.  It is up to T-Mobile to supply the documentation.  Which they haven't done. As mentioned you can download the documentation for the RTAC68U which it was based on http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTAC68U/HelpDesk_Manual/ and use that as a reference.

This is a great router unfortunately it is crippled by T-Mobile's lack of support and documentation.
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
Is there a way to plug the old router in and use its ability to share the ext hdd?
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
If so, how please?
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Brian BEE Topic Advisor, Independant Technology ProfessionalCommented:
Yes there is.

(By the way, I think you can edit your question using the gear icon, rather than post two questions.)

Anyway, this is what I do at home... Turn off the wireless on the router supplied by your ISP. Also make a note of what IP range the DHCP on the ISP router is using (for example, 192.168.1.x).

Like I already said, plug the WAN port of your router into the LAN port of the ISP router. Plug all network devices into your router. Go to your router admin settings page and make sure DHCP is not using the same range as you noted earlier. If it is, change it (ie 192.168.0.x). Enable wireless if you need it. Set up your external drive.

This will only work if you want to access the drive from inside your network.
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
The modem is a wired modem.  But I have a wireless router from tmobile and one I bought before
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
Id like to keep using the tmobile wifi router as the main one b/c it's probably a little better than mine.
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
I can use the tmobile router as the main router and the other one as the one to share the ext hdd out with
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
Does this make the wifi signal any stronger?
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
no it will not per se make the signal stronger. In the 2.4Ghz band there are only 3 non-overlapping channels 1,6,11 .. if all of your neighbors are using 6 then use 1 or 11 and you will get less interference.
dhcp server makes things easier but most routers already have a dhcp server built in, use it or not your choice.
here my setup is.
Cable Modem <> (wan port) Cisco Router 192.168.0/24 gateway 192.168.0.1 Lan Port 1<> Wan Port (192.168.0.2 static) TP-Link Router 192.168.1/24 Gateway 192.168.1.1
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
Any NW techs out there to help?
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
does NW = Networking?
as mentioned before the ASUS router that T-Mobile re-branded is a great router. Unfortunately when they did this they may have changed parts of the interface and only by comparing what you see in the web interface and compare it to the base documentation will you know what has changed.

If you have AC wireless adapters you will get increased performance with the caveat that 5GHZ signals will have less interference but have a much less penetration of walls .. subject to precipitation fade (if outdoors) .. the AC protocol includes beam forming with multiple antenna's which is a more directional signal compared to A/B/G/N protocols.
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
Yes, NW =Networking techs.
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
David, not sure what this means.  "If you have AC wireless adapters you will get increased performance with the caveat that 5GHZ signals will have less interference but have a much less penetration of walls .. subject to precipitation fade (if outdoors) .. the AC protocol includes beam forming with multiple antenna's which is a more directional signal compared to A/B/G/N protocols."
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
As you may have noticed lower frequencies (bass sounds) penetrate walls where treble and higher sounds do not penetrate.. The same with an AM radio may not fade out when in a tunnel but FM signals will (AM 530-1300Khz/ FM 88-108Mhz)

The same principle goes for radio waves. The higher in frequency the more line of sight the signal and the least penetration of obstacles.  Rain drops are obstacles at this frequency.

Microwave Ovens, Cordless Phones operate in the 2.4Ghz unmanaged band which are potential causes of interference.  Also there really only are 3 channels that don't overlap CH 1,6 and 11 and you may have neighbors using one of these channels which will cause interference.

5Ghz Band doesn't have this problem and there are a lot less 5Ghz devices on the market. Beam forming uses multiple antennas to create a directional antenna (a beam)
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Mark O'BrienDispatch Software Support and Server AdministrationAuthor Commented:
Thank you for the help
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