Redhat -VS- Ubuntu

Hello

In the beginning our shop was a pure windows shop.

As time went on different Linuxes were installed on a trial basis.  As all the Linuxes worked well, we now need to select either Redhat or Ubuntu for our standard.  Our Linux footprint is small and we run it all on 2 VMware servers with ease.

Management wants a list of:
Redhat:    pros  | cons
Ubuntu:   pros  | cons

We are a "data" company so compliance and uptime are very important.
All our servers on in VMware and are hosted so we are already spending "real money"

Concerns are:
1) Sev 1
2) Security patches
3) Support
4) Easy to build ( we want to do puppet or chef installs )
5) Tools ( Redhat says they have great build tools ( satellite ) and compliance tools)
6) SELinux as it is web facing ( but not go wild with it, just protect what is most needed )
7) We are U.S. based ( not California )
8) Support for future stuff ( VMware VSan or Gluster )
9) Anything a developer would need.  
10) Anything a deplorer would need
11) Virtual Licensing if we go the non free route

I know people are going to ask me what the data is and I can not answer that ... however we can pretend it is a fancy French Restaurant you have to schedule months ahead of time, order and pay for the stuff.  

Truffles anyone ?
TIMFOX123Asked:
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Dave BaldwinFixer of ProblemsCommented:
If you are getting Redhat instead of CentOS, you getting and paying for support.  You can get that in Ubuntu also.  I have both Ubuntu (get the LTS - Long Term Support - version) and CentOS.  I would get one of each and put real applications on each one.  They are different in the way they support and organize things.  You should also look at the applications that are available from their repositories.  They are not exactly the same.  Make sure they have what you need.

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TIMFOX123Author Commented:
How good is / was Ubuntu support ?  How expensive is Ubuntu support ?
Dave BaldwinFixer of ProblemsCommented:
You would have to ask them.  Canonical is the name of the parent company.  Here is the Ubuntu page with a link to them.  They are a sizeable company.  http://www.ubuntu.com/about/canonical-and-ubuntu
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TIMFOX123Author Commented:
OK, good information, and thx.

For others, the questions I am still looking for responses for are:
Management wants a list of:
 Redhat:    pros  | cons
 Ubuntu:   pros  | cons


Concerns are:
 1) Sev 1
 2) Security patches
 3) Support
 4) Easy to build ( we want to do puppet or chef installs )
 5) Tools ( Redhat says they have great build tools ( satellite ) and compliance tools)
 6) SELinux as it is web facing ( but not go wild with it, just protect what is most needed )
 7) We are U.S. based ( not California )
 8) Support for future stuff ( VMware VSan or Gluster )
 9) Anything a developer would need.  
 10) Anything a deplorer would need
 11) Virtual Licensing if we go the non free route
Natty GregIn Theory (IT)Commented:
They are both on point in this arena, there is absolutely nothing to say other than choice, with the exception of ease of use. In my opinion Ubuntu is easier to use because you can load the gui interface for its server edition if you do not like command line
Dave BaldwinFixer of ProblemsCommented:
I have both CentOS (Redhat without support) and Ubuntu with both GUI (Gnome) and the server functions.  I did that because my main interest is in developing web sites.  It is just much easier with the GUI.  There are are quite few things that require the command line.  I also have Webmin on both of them which makes 'admin' a lot easier.  http://www.webmin.com/
TIMFOX123Author Commented:
Thx for the heads up on the Webmin.  I do need to evaluation on  that.   Does Webmin work as well on Redhat as it does in Ubuntu ?
Dave BaldwinFixer of ProblemsCommented:
Yes, it does.  Installation directions are on the Webmin web site.  Webmin is a Perl application so you have to have Perl installed which it usually is.  I have had to occasionally let Webmin get a new Perl module from CPAN for some new function I tried to add.
TIMFOX123Author Commented:
Thank you Dave

Any other people want to get in on this subject ?  I currently can "flip a coin" and select a Linux.  One as profitable to our company as the other.
Natty GregIn Theory (IT)Commented:
nope time for you to flip that coin lol
TIMFOX123Author Commented:
Thank you all
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