win7 uac

I just noticed something with UAC in win7 - the "never notify" option says
"if you're signed in with a standard user account, any changes that require administrator permissions will automatically be denied"
so I was thinking, as a standard practice, I have an admin account, and then a standard user account. the standard user account is the account that I login with, and only use my admin to install software of something like that.
According to this description, why wouldn't I use the "never notify" setting because it sound like since I am signed in with a standard account, everything is automatically denied?
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
"Automatically denied" needs to be understood. When it comes up in a Standard User, then you can OK it with Admin Credentials. Since you sometimes need to install software as the user (and not always as administrator), then this is a handy, useful feature. Leave UAC on in both accounts and it works fine.

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The notification allows you to authorize the change if you know it is legitimate.

If you are never notified that the action you are trying to take requires admin permission and nothing happens, it could be frustrating. If you are knowledgeable enough to know that a particular action will need admin rights, the setting might be right for you.

JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
"Never notify" in a user account will NOT allow software to be installed because (99% of the time), software requires admin rights to install. In the meantime, dodgy software might get installed without you know and hose your machine accordingly. Do NOT turn UAC OFF at any time.
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Actually if you select "Never notify" in Windows UAC, you have turned UAC off and you won't be protected by it. You should rather use the top slider setting, "Always notify".

It is correct that you should have an account with Admin rights, and the standard user account. You should always use the standard user account, even when installing software. You'll just have to authenticate using the admin account then. But you don't really have to logon to the PC using the Admin account (or it is hardly ever needed).
Let me try to find other words for it:

With "Never notify", win7 will behave exactly like xp. You don't have the advantages of UAC (the convenience to get asked for strong credentials in case needed) nor the (potential) disadvantages (the prompting for consent which annoys some people). Admins act as full-blown admins all the time and users will see "access denied" on all administrative actions, including installs.

Not recommended from a security point of view in any case.
JeffBeallAuthor Commented:
thank you.
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
@JeffBeall - You are very welcome and I was happy to help.
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