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hello,
i live in Belgium - which has 2 main languages - Dutch and French
often when i open an english site, i see the site for several seconds in English -then it translates into FRENCH
i want that to be in ENGLISH - or Dutch

how can i change that behavior?

**i've already set the internet explorer 11 options language to english
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jcimarron

8/22/2022 - Mon
A. Cristian Csiki

Hi nobus,

Aren't you using toolbar?
nobus

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no toolbars, and i set my reginal language to dutch
jcimarron

nobus--
The site thinks you live in a French speaking region.  Try using a proxy from an English speaking region..

Try using a different browser.
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A. Cristian Csiki

Hi,

Use Google toolbar or Google Chrome. You will be able to memorize settings for language for each foreign site for your speaking region.

Regards
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i don't want to use another browser - nor toolbar
jcimarron - yes, i know it thinks i'm french - but i prefer to do the thinking myself...how would i go about using another proxy?
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actually - i know nothing about proxys - i wonder how would it help in my case?
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nobus--
The reference http://www.iprivacytools.com/change-ip-country-location/  says:
" a web proxy is an actual website that relays pages to you. You simply visit their homepage, enter a URL to view, and they'll display that page in a frame. The visited website will only see the IP address of the relay, and not yours (if it's working properly)."
A tutorial on setting up a web proxy is
http://www.7tutorials.com/how-set-proxy-server-all-major-internet-browsers-windows

In http:#a40709633 you said "another" proxy so I assumed you already knew all this.
nobus

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jcimarron - what has the seeing of the ip address to do with the display of the language?
i'm sorry to trouble you, but i don't see the connection - anyway my ip adress should be tied to dutch - not french
jcimarron

nobus--
The site you are trying to view sees the site of the proxy server not your site.  If the proxy server is located in England, for example, the site it sees is an English site.  If the site you are trying to view is coded to respond in the language of the server it sees, it will respond in that language.
As quoted above
" a web proxy is an actual website that relays pages to you. You simply visit their homepage, enter a URL to view, and they'll display that page in a frame. The visited website will only see the IP address of the relay, and not yours (if it's working properly)."
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i never set up a proxy server - and afaik don't use one; here my settings :
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Bill  -you are VERY well informed - and are correct
i did as you said, an d what shows are 2 locations  - afrench one + the correct one :
 ip
is there a way to remove the french one ?
jcimarron

nobus--
"i never set up a proxy server - and afaik don't use one; here my settings :"
I never said you did.  You did--in http:#a40709633

I still think that if you followed my suggestions in http:#a40712862 and set up a proxy server located in an English speaking location, the site you are trying to see in English will render in English and stay that way.
I respect BillDL, but he gives no reason why you cannot do this.  He only tells you the location of your existing IP address--which is being seen as in a non-English location--which you do not want.

Basically the site you want to see, now sees your server's IP address as being in a French speaking location.  Whereas using a proxy server in an English speaking location allows the site to see an English IP address.
Of course not all sites allow such detection of the location of the IP address.
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jcimarron - i'll try it for sure; it can be another way (or the only one?) to solve it
and it's good info you gave me - since this is new ground for me
lets wait what Bill has to say
jcimarron

nobus--
I think using a proxy will be the most direct way to accomplish what you want.  That is why I gave you the URL of a detailed tutorial to set up a proxy.  
http://www.7tutorials.com/how-set-proxy-server-all-major-internet-browsers-windows

Are there other ways?  Perhaps.  One might be to use the In Private BrowsingSetting of IE.
BillDL

Hi nobus and jcimarron

I am not necessarily against using a proxy, and wasn't trying to discredit the idea or advise against it.  My initial thoughts simply were that a website configured to check a visitor's geographic location would probably always suggest French as the language based on a popular (but wrong) conception that the vast majority of Belgians talk like Hercule Poirot rather than Vincent Van Gogh.

I have to say that I a little surprised that the IP Address lookup would show so many results as France, and only one as Brussels in Belgium.  Just like Visual TraceRoute applications, I suppose it depends on how many backward hops the process does from the destination domain or IP Address (or server that is running the scripts).  It may stop short.  All except one of the IP Location checks on that same page showed in England for my public IP Address, and it was a different geolocation service that correctly showed Glasgow for me.

As an example of how they can get it wrong, here's a company that sells VPN software:
https://hqvpn.net/lp/change-real-ip/
It boasts somewhere down the page: "What we know about you", as if to scare me to death, but the map shows that I am closer to nobus than I am to my real location!
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I think the only solution to this WOULD be to use a Proxy Server, and I wonder whether you might be able to find one based in The Netherlands where Dutch IS the official language.
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jcimarron

BillDL--
If nobus wants a proxy server with a Dutch location, maybe there is one here.  (site already posted)
http://www.iprivacytools.com/change-ip-country-location/
However,  the chances that the site nobus  wants to view can offer Dutch content to a server in a Dutch location are small.  More likely is a site that has the option to be rendered in English for visitors who are perceived as being located in an English speaking location.

One of the concepts of using a proxy server is to change the IP address perceived by the site visited.
BillDL

A good point, but I would guess that nobus visits quite a lot of websites that are written in Dutch, French, and English, but that Dutch would be his first choice given that it is his 1st language.
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correct Bill, but it may even be in english (that's what my IE is set for) - easy to answer Q's here
French is my last option
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Ja, Ik hou niet van de Fransen ook ;-)
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ik hou wel van de Fransen - and i speak french also -  but in this case it's a nuisance

**  Ja, Ik hou niet van de Fransen ook ;-)   --> try some girls, maybe you'll change your mind
BillDL

hah, yes, I hadn't thought about French women.  I have changed my mind ;-)
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ok i have enough info for now, thanks to both of you
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Thank you nobus
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a good thing you changed your mind - or no points !!

now i have to watch Parijs Roubaix ...
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nobus--
Glad to have helped.