Fraudulent seller warning

Said he was selling a fake part but now admits that he sent a genuine part. Avoid this seller if you want a real fake.
fake oem part
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Thibault St john Cholmondeley-ffeatherstonehaugh the 2ndAsked:
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paarunCommented:
Do we have a question here or you just wanted to post this for info? If it is just for info, I think there are far more better forums for you to do so.
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Thibault St john Cholmondeley-ffeatherstonehaugh the 2ndAuthor Commented:
It is a question
Is it right to allow someone who does not understand, the ability to publicly spoil someone's reputation with little or no chance for the
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Thibault St john Cholmondeley-ffeatherstonehaugh the 2ndAuthor Commented:
Sorry phone mucked up.
With little or no chance for the person to reply.
I thought the eBay page demonstrated it rather well.
The red highlight and capital letters draw the eye to a single negative comment in a page of positive posts.
(I had good service from that seller and left good feedback)
How safe is a reputation?
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paarunCommented:
Ethically speaking, it is not right to spoil someone's reputation without giving the seller a chance to respond. But, this is common in the recent past. However, if the feedback for the seller is from multiple customers, then you may have to stay away from the seller. Reputation is just an feel good factor in most sites that sells products.
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Thibault St john Cholmondeley-ffeatherstonehaugh the 2ndAuthor Commented:
I agree that if there are many negative comments then you might be foolish to engage in a transaction. That isn't my point.
The person who left negative feedback obviously does not understand that OEM indicates that the part was not made by the original manufacturer, was displeased to find they had bought a non original part, but is still allowed, actually encouraged, to leave feedback that the seller  cannot reply to.
It may be happening more often, but this does not make it right.
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paarunCommented:
Definitely not right.
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BillDLCommented:
Good Morning Ors-Ankh-Aten, I hope you are well and haven't been duped into buying any non-fake products.

What was the seller advertising?  Windows CDs or something?

I am curious to know why you would even consider buying from an eBay shop that spells its name "electORNic warehouse".  I would have thought that was an obvious giveaway.  For all you know the seller is actually advertising OME, EOM, MOE, MEO or even EMO-branded products.  Be very wary of this seller, he is obviously slydexic ;-)
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Thibault St john Cholmondeley-ffeatherstonehaugh the 2ndAuthor Commented:
It was a phone part. Cheap, working, and fitted perfectly. I have no issue with the seller. I was surprised to see someone complaining about being sent a non-fake item and getting even more annoyed when the seller agreed that it was genuine.
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BillDLCommented:
Maybe he thinks OEM = "Optimised Excellent Material".

I hate people who post invalid or trumped-up negative feedback based on their own stupidity and misunderstanding.  It must be very hard for a decent responsible seller to resist from posting a really cutting response to the feedback to make other buyers and prospective buyers realise how spurious the feedback is.
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DaydreamsCommented:
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Thibault St john Cholmondeley-ffeatherstonehaugh the 2ndAuthor Commented:
I see where there can be confusion.
It was only the automotive example that suggested originally equipped. I have always understood it to mean other manufacturer in computing and IT. Perhaps that doesn't extend to phones.
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Delphineous SilverwingGood Ol' GeekCommented:
Part of the trick is whether or not the part is actually Original Manufacturer Equipment?

Allow me to explain...

A significant number of product manufacturers do not manufacture the individual parts; they farm the parts manufacturing to contract fabricators. Then the manufacturer takes these parts and assembles them as their product.

I have seen the contracted fabricators run extra product, more than ordered, without the assembled product manufacturer logo. They will then sell these over-run parts on the gray market as original equipment. Technically it is the same exact part as provided by the assembled product manufacturer, just not labeled that way.
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DaydreamsCommented:
I had assumed (up until now) that oem was like a brand name; if you get, for example, a Samsung phone charger thats  oem you are getting something Samsung stands behind.
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Delphineous SilverwingGood Ol' GeekCommented:
There are no laws that regulate how OEM is used. Leaves a lot of room for interpretation.
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_Commented:
narf

no answer readily forthcoming
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Thibault St john Cholmondeley-ffeatherstonehaugh the 2ndAuthor Commented:
This is more complicated than it originally looked. Perhaps the solitary giver of bad feedback isn't as daft as appears. My original question was intending to lead to what can be done to prevent incorrect bad reviews from soiling a reputation without giving sellers the ability to delete anything negative.
The many interpretations of OEM are certainly worth studying.
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Delphineous SilverwingGood Ol' GeekCommented:
A problem and benefit with the design of many retail and auction sales websites is that they tend to be skewed towards the benefit of the consumer and less for the seller.

I used to do a lot of selling at the site in the example given in the original post back in the old days when there was more balance in design for consumers and sellers. As a seller, it was very handy for helping address bad buyers.
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Thibault St john Cholmondeley-ffeatherstonehaugh the 2ndAuthor Commented:
I think I was the one who misunderstood, not the person who left the negative feedback.
After Daydream 's link made me realise there could be other interpretations of OEM I searched around and it seems that the O stands for original more often than other.
Mea culpable (I think they say).
Yes it was supposed to be about misunderstandings causing disproportionate trouble, but I feel the wind has been removed from the sails of my point now.
Thank you all for your input.
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Thibault St john Cholmondeley-ffeatherstonehaugh the 2ndAuthor Commented:
Thanks for your participation.
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BillDLCommented:
Thank you Robin
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Thibault St john Cholmondeley-ffeatherstonehaugh the 2ndAuthor Commented:
Just seen what my phone did to mea culpa.
I suppose it's trying to show off. In this case it was close, just not what I typed.
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_Commented:
circumlocutions.     : )
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DaydreamsCommented:
>After Daydream 's link made me realise there could be other interpretations of OEM I searched around and it seems that the O stands for original more often than other.


Thank you for the points. I didn't know that the O had other meanings than "original"..
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