DL380 Gen9 Smart Array

Hello,

I am after a HP Smart Array which has Internal and External SAS connectivity, I can only find the P844 but on the HP documentation it only says is compatible with DL380 Gen8 models - can someone recommend the equivalent or will this P844 work in a DL380 Gen9 Server?

I want to be able to connect internal storage and external storage on the same card.

http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=4AA4-7706ENW&doctype=data%20sheet&doclang=EN_US&searchquery=&cc=us&lc=en
Ian TaylorIT Infrastructure Architect .:|:.:|:.Asked:
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Zephyr ICTCloud ArchitectCommented:
Hmmm ... According to this document (p4) only the p441 would fit your requirements... Not sure how it compares with the P844, couldn't immediately find it (shouldn't that be P841)?
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Ian TaylorIT Infrastructure Architect .:|:.:|:.Author Commented:
Thanks - just having a look at the documentation it says it only for external storage, not internal also?
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Zephyr ICTCloud ArchitectCommented:
Woops, yes it is ... Sorry missed that ... Strange, so there's no controller offering both (at least not mentioned)? I'll have another look.
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Zephyr ICTCloud ArchitectCommented:
Seems there's not much out there, this document tells the same story as the one I already mentioned...
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Ian TaylorIT Infrastructure Architect .:|:.:|:.Author Commented:
I'm glad its not just me :)

I'm sure the P844 would work in a Gen9 but dont want to take the chance of wasting money!
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Zephyr ICTCloud ArchitectCommented:
The problem is also, what if you do run into issues and want support from HP, would you get it with the P844 installed in your system?
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Ian TaylorIT Infrastructure Architect .:|:.:|:.Author Commented:
Yup, thats another vaild point.

I cant believe HP dont do an internal\external Smart Array for the Gen9.

The P844 isnt cheap!
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Zephyr ICTCloud ArchitectCommented:
I think it has to do with their new and improved hardware ... A new range of controllers is being developped that will probably only work with gen 9 servers (for hardware based encryption support and such)...

Now you'll probably have to install an extender for inside storage and the low profile p441 or something for external storage and tape-drives.
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Zephyr ICTCloud ArchitectCommented:
By the way, what I kinda stated above is mentioned in this document (p3):

Will a Gen8 Smart Array Controller work on a ProLiant Gen9 server?
No. HP Gen9 Smart Array Controllers are built and laid out to take advantage of the new centralized HP Smart Storage Battery solution. More importantly, Gen9 controllers perform at 12Gb and ProLiant Gen9 servers are built for 12 Gb infrastructure
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Ian TaylorIT Infrastructure Architect .:|:.:|:.Author Commented:
Understand, that sort of answers my question then.

So now my plan has to change now, I dont want to spend lots of money on two Smart Array cards.

My thinking is to have:

1x Onboard Smart Array - Smart Array P440ar
1x HP Smart Array P441 Controller for connecting External storage or tape devices
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Zephyr ICTCloud ArchitectCommented:
Yeah, the onboard Smart Array will not dissapoint you, I trust you have the Flash backed cache module as well...
It supports up to 8 drives without an expander, 26 with... Hope you don't need more than 8 drives on the internal controller or you'd have to go for the expander as well.
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Ian TaylorIT Infrastructure Architect .:|:.:|:.Author Commented:
Can you recommend a part number for the expander?

I best chuck this in!
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andyalderSaggar maker's framemakerCommented:
>1x HP Smart Array P441 Controller for connecting External storage or tape devices

Do you intend the external connector for disks or tapes? You can use a dumb HBA for tapes which is much cheaper.
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Ian TaylorIT Infrastructure Architect .:|:.:|:.Author Commented:
It will be both
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Ian TaylorIT Infrastructure Architect .:|:.:|:.Author Commented:
I'm going to add in a P441 Card, reading the spec on there I can daisy chain a couple of D3600 and D3700 off the back of it and support for SAS tape products.
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Zephyr ICTCloud ArchitectCommented:
In my opinion and in your case that seems the best solution yes.
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Ian TaylorIT Infrastructure Architect .:|:.:|:.Author Commented:
Thanks guys
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Ian TaylorIT Infrastructure Architect .:|:.:|:.Author Commented:
good advice
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andyalderSaggar maker's framemakerCommented:
IMHO it's asking for trouble putting disks and tape on the same controller.
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Ian TaylorIT Infrastructure Architect .:|:.:|:.Author Commented:
Why?
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andyalderSaggar maker's framemakerCommented:
Performance may be less than optimal since everything has to go over the same PCIe bus, admittedly that's historical experience with other Smart Array controllers, I haven't experienced or read of problems with this one when both tapes and disks are on it. Also it's easier to diagnose problems with a separate non-RAID adapter for the tapes.
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