Software for Backing up vSphere 6 Fault Tolerant Machines

Hi All,

Is anyone using anything that can currently back up VMware fault tolerant machines in vsphere 6.

Veeam which we currently use does is not yet capable of doing VADP based snapshots for vSphere 6 and neither is Backup Exec 2012 or Vsphere Data Protection 6..

Wondering if anyone out there is using software to back these kinds of VM's up and can point us in the right direction.

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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Yes, as reported. - Veeam Availability Suite Update 2: FULL vSphere 6 Support
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
This is not a specific issue with VMware vSphere 6.0, VMware FT virtual machines have always had this issue, because you CANNOT VMware Snapshot a virtual machine, and because many of the backup products use this function, they cannot be used. (It's been since VMware vSphere 4.x). It is one of the caveats to be aware of when using VMware FT.

We use two techniques:-

1. SAN Snapshots, where the VMs on a SAN are SAN Snapshotted, where the backups are crash consistent.

2. Install and Agent in the VM, and backup like the old fashioned method, like a physical machine with an Agent in the OS.

This is what the VMware Knowledge base states:-

http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1016619
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Paul SolovyovskySenior IT AdvisorCommented:
@Andrew

That's not what I've read, vSphere 6 does allow for  snapshot on FT machines.  I think the vendors need to catch up with VAAI

http://www.vmwarearena.com/2015/02/vsphere-6-0-whats-new-in-vmware-fault-tolerance-ft.html

http://vinfrastructure.it/2015/02/vmware-vsphere-6-the-new-ft-feature/

My understanding is that VADP will do FT backups only if triggered by VADP.  Taking individual snapshots is still not supported. Haven't tested yet.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
That's what we read as well, but still not working for us, hence why use other techniques!
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Paul SolovyovskySenior IT AdvisorCommented:
Any difference between standard or advanced version?  Perhaps standard VDP doesn't support it
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
We are using Advanced.
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Paul SolovyovskySenior IT AdvisorCommented:
I would say that using agent based backup is the best bet then.  Either that or image based backups if SAN snapshots not available.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
@Paul

In fact VDP, is now longer Standard or Advanced in vSphere 6.0, it's just VDP!

Advanced features are now in the "standard product".
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
We have just tested today, which has been released...

Veeam Availability Suite Update 2: FULL vSphere 6 Support

and it supports

Backup and replication of Fault Tolerant (FT) VMs
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Paul SolovyovskySenior IT AdvisorCommented:
Sweet, about to deploy entire datacenter on Veeam
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TerellionAuthor Commented:
Hi guys, a new patch for Veeam has this supported! Thanks for all your answers :)
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TerellionAuthor Commented:
Thanks Andrew much appreciated!
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Just make sure you test and test again, before production.
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