High definition conversion videos in YouTube

Which is better or high in definition in converting YouTube video: mp4, avi, wmv or 3gp? We download some video and found the video in the youtube is better define than what have downloaded.
rayluvsAsked:
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
Don't convert the video, download the largest file on youtube.  Every conversion loses some information
http://www.screencast.com/t/i9rk11mPC
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Christopher Jay WolffWiggle My Legs, OwnerCommented:
There are so many variables.  Each video player's software algorithm will do things a little differently.  Apparently you like the way the browser uses Flash or something to play your youtube vids.  Then you download the vid and play it with something else like Movie Maker or Media Player and they handle it differently.  How they handle codecs, how the work with the system you're on with RAM and Graphics chipsets all matters.  I think you'd like researching it a little bit.  If you'd like help with certain topics let us know.

Here is a interesting bit on youtube videos to start with.
http://www.macxdvd.com/mac-dvd-video-converter-how-to/best-video-format-for-youtube.htm

and here is a very little bit on video file formats.
http://www.webnethosting.net/the-different-types-of-video-file-formats-on-the-internet/

So correct me if I'm wrong but I think you wanted to know why this happens, and it is usually the above.  If anyone can do nice software work for images and video I often cannot beat Adobe the Flash people.  If you go to Adobe.com and look into the Flash platform you may be able to get a stand-alone Flash Pro Player or something that gives you the quality you want with downloaded youtube vids.

If you would like more please let us know.
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rayluvsAuthor Commented:
We don't really want to know why this happens, we want to know which we can use so we can get the closest to HD as the possible as to what you see YouTube HD (some video are in 1080 and above settings).
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Christopher Jay WolffWiggle My Legs, OwnerCommented:
Alright.  Let's see.  You'll have to try some players out and see if the quality is what you like.

I have no experience with this one but it came up searching for stand-alone Flash player.  If you happen to download the Flash formats of .swf and .flv from youtube you could try it.
http://www.standaloneflashplayer.com/

Then I searched for MP4 players and got these where you can read a review and download popularity info.
This is free.
http://www.freewarefiles.com/Free-MP4-Player_program_59863.html

This is $30.
http://download.cnet.com/MP4-Player/3000-13632_4-10833015.html

This is free.
http://download.cnet.com/VLC-Media-Player-64-bit/3000-13632_4-75761094.html#editorsreview

I cannot run these as I'm have a Microsoft Surface RT 8.1 today so I'll be curious to know if any of them, or one that you end up finding on your own, look good to you.  You'll want to check if they play HD 1080 if you need it.  If you're viewing video on youtube prior to downloading, you can right-click and choose "Stats for nerds" to see the original video type, resolution, and stats.  Please let us know.
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Christopher Jay WolffWiggle My Legs, OwnerCommented:
Forgot to mention.

You may be able to view your downloaded videos in your browser.  I cannot with my Surface RT.  When I try it automatically switches to Xbox video Metro app.

To try it, open browser, click File, Open, browse navigate to your video file on your computer, and open it.  If the navigating doesn't show your video file listed remember to set the file type to "all files."  It may look just as good as it did on youtube if employing the Flash add-on that is part of the browser experience.
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rayluvsAuthor Commented:
It seems like you are doing what we doing, googling for different apps.  We've been doing this.  That is why we decided on EE opinion.

That said, we really looking for EE experience in this matter and opinion on which they recommend to use in order to maintain the highest quality.
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Christopher Jay WolffWiggle My Legs, OwnerCommented:
Hi Rayluvs.

My apologies for not being more clear.  

As far as your original question, we would benefit from knowing what the problem is you see when playing a downloaded video.  Is it pretty but is not smooth?  Does it have pixilation?  What are you viewing it with?  Windows Media Player?  Do you have an example link to share from youtube?  Your original question simply says you find the video "better define" than the download.  It is not much to go on.  We don't even know if you're using a Windows system, or Mac, or something else.

Your question about formats and codecs like MP4, AVI, WMV, 3GP seems unrelated.  We could use some specific examples of how this affects your video.  Especially since we cannot change the original video that was uploaded to youtube.  This is why I pointed out the "stats for nerds" option to discover the original video's quality.  In other words, if we download a video that is a low-resolution 3GP there isn't enough information in this 3GP file to convert it to a high quality MP4.  You might get it converted to MP4 but the extra information would have to be extrapolated out of the 3GP video and wouldn't do much.  If you asked about which formats to search for and download from youtube that should be in a higher quality format, then the answer is MP4 as mentioned in my link above, and is why I searched for MP4 players so you would not miss out on the quality of the MP4 format.

MP4 is a video format mainly used by camcorders and cameras that is gaining popularity. The quality of a video coded using .MP4 is very high and the file size relatively small. .MP4 standard is becoming more popular than .FLV for online video sharing, as it compatible with both online and mobile browsers and also supported by the new HTML5.

3GP is primarily a smaller cell phone format so is unrelated to anything that could be called HD.  If the video you see on you tube is high quality but the same video played locally is not, it is usually unrelated to the format.  Once you've downloaded a 3GP that looked good on youtube, converting the format to something like MP4 isn't going to do much because there is too little information to begin with in the original 3GP file.

That is why I said the best quality in dealing with different codecs in my experience is achieved with Adobe.  Please attempt the above with your browser.  As I posted above, you also have the option to purchase Adobe video products to play videos but we don't know what your application is about, or if your solution must be free.   Are you distributing videos to employees and want to embed a runtime?  Or are you simply watching some entertaining videos and want the same viewing quality from the downloaded file?

I'd be glad to go further if you think it is useful.  Maybe someone else here knows what you're looking for.
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Christopher Jay WolffWiggle My Legs, OwnerCommented:
Hi again.

Wanted to provide this explanation for HD specs from Wiki as I don't think you want to use the popular term "HD" with your particular question here.

HD information.
from the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_video

This info is anther reason why a player that does the best with one person's system may not perform at that level with different display drivers and chipsets and memory.  The answer is can be generalized but you need to try it.
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rayluvsAuthor Commented:
In your experience, converting YouTube video, which is better or high in definition to converted to? (mp4, avi, wmv or 3gp).

Also, you mention Adobe.  What apps we can use to convert video to that format?

(since this is not for continual use, rather temporary, we are looking for free software)
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rayluvsAuthor Commented:
We would like to know EE experience on converting YouTube video to view locally in their PC; which has worked best as in high in definition or better view when to converted to mp4, avi, wmv or 3gp.

We know we received lots of tech info regarding the question, but we would like if an EE can express their own experience on the matter.

Thanx!
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MereteCommented:
mp4, HD 1080  best but use a good player like Media player classic be
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/

 divx avi  high def is also good but use Divx player
http://www.divx.com/en/software/player/features
What's Included "free"
http://www.divx.com/en/software/divx
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