Troubleshooting slow bootup of windows 7 machine -

Trying to troubleshoot a Dell win 7 machine with i7, 8GB ram and cleaned of previous malware.

Wasn't there an app called bviz (boot visibility?) or vbiz?  (for xp) that you'd run, it would reboot the machine and show times for all the apps / services that were getting loaded at start up?  real easy to see that long line (it graphed time vs. app) is for app x and that's taking 10s of seconds to load.

a) I can't find mention of an app with either of those names - anyone know what I was thinking?
b) is there something like that for win 7?  Sure, I can run msconfig, but there's dozens's of services, a bunch of apps, etc. loading.  it'll take loads of reboots to get the cause (which may be, just having lots of things starting. - it comes with dell stage, Bluetooth, etc apps the the user wants' to keep).
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BeGentleWithMe-INeedHelpAuthor Commented:
thanks but still seems tedious
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marsiliesCommented:
The tool you're thinking of is called BOOTVIS, and it was for XP. It's been replaced for later versions of windows with xbootmgr, part of the Windows Performance Toolkit (WPT). See this link on how to use it:
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/jj663181.aspx


Windows 7 has automatic boot optimization built in. Boot times improve after a half dozen boots on a new install:
https://www.autoitconsulting.com/site/performance/windows-7-self-optimizing-boot-process/

You can also enable Windows Boot Performance Diagnostics and look at the resulting Event Viewer logs to see what's slowing it down:
http://www.guidingtech.com/2955/fix-slow-windows-startup-boot-performance-diagnostics/
https://www.winhelp.us/troubleshoot-performance-in-windows-vista-and-7.html
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flubbsterCommented:
Though I have never done it on a Windows 7 system (only because I have not had the need), I used to do this quite often on XP systems to determine why a boot was taking a long time. It is usually caused by either a service or program taking a long time to start.

It is done by enabling a process called Verbose Booting Messages. It will display each of the services or programs as it is starting. Watch for one that stays on the screen for a long time. That will most likely be the culprit, then you can go from there. On Windows 7, it is enabled with a registry edit. The instructions are here towards the bottom:

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/32477/use-verbose-boot-messages-to-troubleshoot-windows-startup-problems/

Understand that for most services, if a service does not start properly, there is usually another attempt at starting it before it quits and goes to the next one. That could be the source of your issue.

The only other thing I am thinking is that if there is a network connection it is trying to establish like a network drive or share.
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BeGentleWithMe-INeedHelpAuthor Commented:
thanks.  BootVis!  yeah! So I followed that link about the performance toolkit.  THat page has a link to download it, which takes you to a page to download the Win 8 assessment and deployment toolkit.  

I googled download xbootmgr, 1 link took me to a win 7 SDK, ran that, checked the box for install the performance toolkit, it gives me errors and performance toolkit isn't there ; (

Anyone know how to download xbootmgr?
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marsiliesCommented:
Are you referring to this guide?
http://windowsitpro.com/systems-management/diagnose-shutdown-problems-xbootmgr

I followed that guide, and it installed xbootmgr for me.

Note that after the SDK is installed, you still have to go to the C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v7.0\Bin directory and run one of these installers:
wpt_x86.msi - for 32 bit Windows
wpt_x64.msi - for 64 bit Windows
wpt_ia64.msi - for Windows on an Itanium processor (not likely unless it's a server)

After the WPT installer has been run, xbootmgr should be installed.
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BeGentleWithMe-INeedHelpAuthor Commented:
OK, I downloaded the win 7 SDK, checked all the boxes and didn't get an error.  but no xbootmgr that I can find.
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BeGentleWithMe-INeedHelpAuthor Commented:
marsilies - DOH!!! thanks.

OK, it ran from the command line and is rebooting. I'll be back!
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marsiliesCommented:
Did you run the WPT MSI as well? Since it's an PC with an i7 and 8GB of RAM, I'm guessing it's 64 bit Windows, and you should run:

C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v7.0\Bin\wpt_x64.msi



Once installed, xbootmgr will be in this location:

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Windows Performance Toolkit\xbootmgr.exe
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tmoore1962Commented:
First run disk clean up if you haven't already.  Next schedule a disk check in windows disk toolsn (though I prefer wise disk cleaner you can also run wise registry cleaner - make full backup of registry first)  and reboot system for the disk check to run.  If still slow...
Run TDSkiller or another rootkit scanner to ensure that malware completely removed.  You can also run Hijackthis and get a list of items in the startup and any BHO's and remove orphan startup entries left behind by the malware cleanup.
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BeGentleWithMe-INeedHelpAuthor Commented:
thanks.  I did all that, finally got a view from xbootmgr.  didn't see any smoking gun.  Just lots of stuff that the user wants (dell stage, Bluetooth) or legitimate apps (sound, trackpad, intel apps, etc.).  no 1 thing is the cause so I think we'll move on.  once it boots, it runs nice so they don't reboot much : )

try your luck on this one:

http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Microsoft_Operating_Systems/Windows/Q_28667424.html
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flubbsterCommented:
So the solution was that there was nothing wrong to begin with??

okay :)
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BeGentleWithMe-INeedHelpAuthor Commented:
yeah, I guess : (
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