Hp Pavilion dv7

I bought a really top of the line Laptop 6 1/2 years ago. It is an HP Pavilion DV7-2185dx. It has Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q9000 @ 2.0 GHZ with 6 GIG of RAM and 500 GIG HD. Really nice little box.

My Question: Should I just upgrade to Windows 7 or 8. I know it is capable of upgrade to Windows 7. Not sure if it can upgrade to 8. What would this system be comparable to in todays technology and market?? Example what processor or processors??

I need to purchase a new Laptop. This one has been sitting with Vista on it in my office. Any suggestions? Thank you for your help.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
That is a pretty old machine. If you KNOW it will run Windows 7, then it should run Windows 8.1. Drivers will be an issue. I strongly suggest getting a spare hard drive and experimenting with that.

Windows 7 is now past best before date, and so if the machine will do it, run Windows 8.

There is a Microsoft Upgrade Advisor (Microsoft Downloads) that you can run to see if the hardware (mainly video) can run Windows 8.

It all should work, but after 6 years, I usually look for a new machine with LED monitor and faster speeds.

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dbruntonQuid, Me Anxius Sum?  Illegitimi non carborundum.Commented:
That's a reasonable system.

If you can get a Windows 7 upgrade at a reasonable price I'd go for it.  You may even be able to upgrade it to Windows 10 for free when that is released (but that depends on drivers etc being available).
HP does provide Windows 7 drivers for this laptop.  So that means it has full compatibility with this OS.  But like John said, Windows 7 is aging, the OS itself is 5.5 years old, but it will be supported for a few more years.

If you want to go a step further and can tolerate the Windows 8 start screen, then Windows 8.1 with Update 1 should do nicely as it does run faster than Windows 7.  But one caution though, since HP never provided any Windows 8 drivers, it typically means that laptop wasn't designed for it.

From my experience, Windows 8.1 has detected all my old hardware out of box and has never crashed, so you might be alright.  But if it does not, then a nice utility that can help find them is DriverEasy.  There is a free version.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
There is no need for the Windows 8.1 start screen. You can start in Desktop mode and there are Windows 8 supplied tools to make a decent menu system. I never use the start screen,

Please see my article on ways to improve Windows 8.1

Before you make a final decision on weather to use Windows 7 versus Windows 8.1 you should also consider the status of your laptop. Has John mentioned previously it is quite old at 6 years. However, both OS's support your laptop but memory and speed will be key.  If you have to keep your laptop, I would look at maxing out your memory to the 8GB that it is capable of but 6GB is fine just as well.  I would also consider running an SSD drive and a 64 Bit version of either OS if your system supports it.    Those minor features will make your laptop run faster than it's current configuration.  

Another thing to note is that Windows 10 will be released in July. That's less that 2 months away and I"m sure many manufactures will be offering great deals on new laptops with Windows 10. I've been running the free Beta version and must say I'm impressed. Microsoft has taken all the best of Windows 7 and 8 and combined them into a new OS.  For more details you can check out http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/about .  

Download a free trial copy and run it. It will help you to decide if you want to run 7, 8 or wait another month or two and get a new laptop with Windows 10.

Jackie ManIT ManagerCommented:
I will NOT go for Windows 8.1 for sure as many old accessories, like printers and scanners have problems with drivers for Windows 8.1 and I do not see any practical advantage for using Windows 8.1.

Besides,  Windows 7 is much better than Windows Vista according the hardware spec for the laptop.

Of course, if money is not a problem, upgrading to a laptop with SSD hybrid drive will be a good choice.
Natty GregIn Theory (IT)Commented:
It will run windows 8.1 just fine
Gary CaseRetiredCommented:
A friend asked me to upgrade his virtually identical dv7 last year.    We replaced the hard drive with a 250GB SSD and installed Windows 7 Home Premium -- and the system SCREAMS ==> boots in ~ 20 seconds;  loads programs nearly instantaneously; etc.    It's a VERY nice laptop with those upgrades.

Assuming you do the work yourself, you could do those upgrades for ~ $200 => $100 each for the SSD and Windows.     Note that Windows 7 will work just fine without the SSD,  but including that really makes the laptop feel like a new machine.

As for performance =>  your CPU scores 2567 on PassMark's CPUMark ... roughly in the same range as a 4th gen Core i3 mobile processor.   For example, the ultra-low-voltage i3-4010U scores 2438;  the mobile i3-4000M scores 3266.     Your system with an SSD would easily outperform systems with these much newer CPU's unless they also had SSDs.

Bottom line:   That's a very nice system.   With 6GB of RAM and the Q9000 it will work very well for several more years.    Easily worth upgrading it to an SSD and Windows 7 ... or '8.1 if you'd prefer, although I'd be inclined to stay with '7 and then, if you decide to, you could upgrade it to '10 later this year.
David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
The best bang for the buck solution for this system is replace the hard drive with a SSD drive.  

Are you sure about 6.5 years ago. It wasn't cutting edge for 2009 as the tech is at least 10 years old? as it is based on the LGA 775 chipset and the i3/i5/i7 1156 was out then Since then we've seen many cpu incantations, Which were Penryn (tick) Clarksfield (tock)      ,Arrandale (tick), Sandy Bridge-M (tock),Ivy Bridge-M (tick),Haswell (tock)
tick = die shrink of previous processor, tock = new microarchitechure
dbruntonQuid, Me Anxius Sum?  Illegitimi non carborundum.Commented:
The Q9000 came out in 2008 so six and half years ago would be about right.
Gary CaseRetiredCommented:
"... the tech is at least 10 years old "  ==> NO ... not yet :-)

The initial Core 2 CPU's were released in the summer of 2006, and the Core 2 units continued to evolve through early 2009.    The Core 2 Quad Q9000 was released in Dec 2008 ... it's been LESS than 6 1/2 years since a system using it could have been released ==> so I think the timeline suggested is very accurate.

Note that the earliest Core i3's weren't released until Jan 2010.
David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
I t end to buy on the tick and not the tock ( i actually thought I bought my Sandybridge 5 years ago!)
i actually did this (installing an SSD) on an HP9500 with 4 Gb ram - and the user is very happy with it
i even left Vista on it - and it runs fine
I'd do as garycase said, upgrade to an SSD and Windows 7. You will then be able to upgrade for free to Windows 10 when it is released in about 2 month's time (that upgrade offer should be available for about an year). Windows 10 should run fine on that laptop, but if you aren't happy with it you could still return to Windows 7. You just need Windows 7 or 8.x for the free upgrade offer.
rangersal1Author Commented:
I was also asking what was the comparison as far as my processor to todays technology. Thank you everyone.
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