Install SQL Server Express 2012

Hello,

I am attempting to install SQL Server Management Studio to administer two instances of SQL Server 2008 Express Edition.  One instance is 2008 Express and the other is 2008 Express R2.  While attempting to install the management studio, I am told that I need SP1 installed for what I am assuming is the 2008 Express version, not the R2 version.  It would be nice if I could acquire just the Service Pack 1 install file, not the entire package.  After hours of searching, I cannot locate the file.  I have the one for SQL Server 2008 (non Express), which doesn't work.  It is either this or attempt to install SQL Server Express 2012, which I already tried to install and it is calling for Visual Studio 2012 shell?  There seem to be 3 types of this shell, integrated, isolated and redistributable package?  I have no idea which one I need?  Has anyone been through this fiasco and come out on top?  I would really like to complete this task.  I have been at it for two days now.  If you need any more information, please let me know.

Thanks.
Cheese
cheesebugahAsked:
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Hypercat (Deb)Commented:
You can use the regular download:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=26727

If you look at the Details section, you'll see that this package can be used to upgrade the Express version as well as all the other versions the SQL 2008 R2.
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cheesebugahAuthor Commented:
hypercat,

I already have that file.  I ran it, but it didn't seem to upgrade the Express 2008 version.  I'll try it again.

Thanks,
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Hypercat (Deb)Commented:
Did you run it against the appropriate instance(s) (i.e., the ones for your Express edition rather than the ones for your full edition)?
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cheesebugahAuthor Commented:
I just tried running it again and when you get to specifying features (selecting instances), they are grayed out.  Lovely.
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cheesebugahAuthor Commented:
Both editions are Express, one is 2008 and the other is 2008 R2.
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Hypercat (Deb)Commented:
Well, you could try either SQL 2008 R2 management studio (which I think will work with 2008 and 2008R2), or you could try the 2012 version:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=29062

There's a separate download there for just the management studio itself, which is all you need.
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cheesebugahAuthor Commented:
If I try to install either the Express or Express R2 version of management studio I am prompted for SP1 to be installed.  I could not install Express 2012 because it wants this Visual Studio 2010 shell?  I am stuck.

Thanks
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cheesebugahAuthor Commented:
If I knew whether to install the "integrated" or the "isolated" version of this Visual Studio 2010 shell, I could probably install Express 2012.  But, I'm not sure which one to install?  Also, I have seen where the "integrated" version is no longer available?  I don't know, this Microsoft crap is so unnerving.
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Hypercat (Deb)Commented:
Okay - have you tried a full download of SQL Express 2008 R2 with SP1 and management studio?

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=26729
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cheesebugahAuthor Commented:
I have not.  I am installing the Visual Studio 2010 shell (isolated) now.  I was thinking I would probably have to uninstall SQL Express 2008 R2 first.  I may have to go to that.  We will see.  Thank you for your suggestions.
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Vitor MontalvãoMSSQL Senior EngineerCommented:
There's a reason for you don't upgrade the SQL 2008 instance to R2 also?
SQL Server 2008 Express Edition has a database size limit of 4GB. With R2 that limit was increased to 10GB.
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cheesebugahAuthor Commented:
Okay, so I was able to get SQL Server 2012 Express w/tools installed after upgrading Powershell 1.0 to 2.0 and installing the Visual Studio 2010 shell.  Everything is working as it should.  Whew, what a task.  I just love me some Microsoft.

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cheesebugahAuthor Commented:
The installations of Powershell 2.0 and the integrated version of Visual Studio 2010 shell provided me with the ability to install SQL Express 2012 with the Management Studio feature.  I was having problems determining whether to install the "integrated" version or the "isolated" version of the Visual Studio 2010 shell and no answer was provided on which one to choose.
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