New server Virtual or not

I going to implement a new server to a business that around 10 users , they are using the server as file server, but I will install a new DC for them (now they are using the server as shared) .

My question is, if should I install it on Vmware (free edition) and what does it include ?
or Hyper -v ?

Windows 2012 probably .

Also backup solutions are very expensive so I thought just to have shadow copies and online back.

Please advise.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Hyper-V or VMware ESXi are both very good Hypervisors.

You will need to ensure, you user a server in the HCL for VMware ESXi.

Check the VMware Hardware Compatability Lists HCL here

The VMware Hardware Compatibility List is the detailed lists showing actual vendor devices that are either physically tested or are similar to the devices tested by VMware or VMware partners. Items on the list are tested with VMware products and are known to operate correctly.Devices which are not on the list may function, but will not be supported by VMware.

http://www.vmware.com/go/hcl

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Part 1: HOW TO: Install and Configure VMware vSphere Hypervisor 5.1 (ESXi 5.1)

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Dan CraciunIT ConsultantCommented:
Hyper-V is free.
And Windows 2012 Standard includes 3 licences: 1 physical, 2 virtual. So basically you can have 2VMs running Win 2012 on the same license.

As for backup, a somewhat cheaper alternative is BackupAssist: http://www.backupassist.com/BackupAssist/pricing.html
I'm using it at 3 clients and it does the job well.

HTH,
Dan
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alonig1Author Commented:
VMware has the free edition , you don't recommend it?
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Dan CraciunIT ConsultantCommented:
I know people who recommend it. I don't use it. But I do use Hyper-V.
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
I would avoid saying that MS office 3 licenses in one purchase - It's 2 licenses plus one hardware install for virtualization purposes... 3 licenses is misleading at best.

As to virtualize, why wouldn't you? Virtualization is not new.  You shouldn't be asking, in my opinion, why should I virtualize, you should be asking "Why SHOULDN'T I virtualize?"

As to what to use... I'd say use what you know.  If you don't know either well, then use Hyper-V - in my opinion it's better to have a SINGLE vendor to deal with (or as few vendors as necessary).  For a 10 user install, VMWare vs. Hyper-V performance is irrelevant - both will do just fine as long as you spec out the server reasonably well.
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alonig1Author Commented:
I have experience with both,

Of course I like more the VMware but its more expensive , so its either the free edition or Hyper V.

So even for a company that doesn't need more then one server you would recommend going Virtual.
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
The benefits are too great in my opinion.  I've had issues trying to recover VMWare based systems so I MUCH prefer Hyper-V since it provides storage on an easily accessible medium.  Hyper-V can provide a level of DR with Replica that (I don't think) VMWare offers for free.  Plus can you be absolutely, positively certain they will never need a second server for a line of business app or an RDS server?  Your Server 2012 License includes licenses for two VMs... the amount of work required to convert the physical install to virtual and then install a VM Host system isn't worth not doing it from the start...

Now, why should you not virtualize?
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alonig1Author Commented:
I'm not going to convert currently they  have windows 2008 and it's not configured as a DC.

So it's a fresh installation
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
Not talking about converting TODAY.  I'm talking about a year or two or three down the road after you've decided NOT to virtualize....
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alonig1Author Commented:
Yes,

I'm aware of the benefits it just a matter of the VMware free edition compared to Hyper - V.

I guess Hyper V is the way in this case.

Thanks.
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