how to record on dvd recorder from a receiver

I have a receiver which provides only HDMI output, and a dvd recorder which accepts only RCA input, How to record on the DVD recorder from signals obtained from the receiver.

I already bought a conversion box (HDMI to RCA), which works fine from DVD to the DVD recordser, however, when connecting the receiver using it, it shows the picture, but not the sound.

I tried the HDMI to RCA cable, but it does not transfer any signal... any solution?

I am thinking of another solution, Can I input the receiver HDMI output to HDMI input in the computer, and use a software to record?. And what is this software, and is there a video card which accepts this input to use with the application?
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This is suppose to handle the audio too,

I haven't used this device, but according to the reviews and specs it should be a solution.

You could use something like this to get to the computer from the hdmi converter,

For a few more dollars you can get an HDMI input (this is the best option),
fmichailAuthor Commented:

I got a device like the one in the first link, and I connected its HDMI side to DVD player output, and I connected its RCA side to a DVD recorder, The recorder recorder successfully what was played in the player


When I connect HDMI side to the output of a receiver (working on the internet) and the RCA side to the DVD Recorder, only picture is captured and no audio

Is there a difference between the HDMI output from a receiver, and the HDMI output from a receiver? Why it does work from the DVD player, and not from the receiver... Am I missing something?
If it is not too private, could you post here the model/type of your receiver, recorder and the conversion box (HDMI to RCA)?
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fmichailAuthor Commented:
Hi wiki2000

My receiver is MAG250 (one HDMI output, and one USB port (could not record on it), and one power input
My converter is Mini HDMI2AV converter.
I have couple of points that may help, I am using the USB from USB source to feed the converter (versus using USB from a separate power input, this may not provide enough power to handle the audio???. I do not know.

One of my friends told me on the phone today that I need to check the setup of sound in the receiver, it may not be providing audio that can be split from the HDMI by the converter.... well I did not understand, as the receiver is already providing good audio signal if the HDMI is inserted as TV input, so what is the point. I appreciate your help. Thanks
fmichailAuthor Commented:
I managed recording by using a different HDMI converter, and the seller told me you have to get a converter which has sound circuit in it. This is the key to the solution. Thanks you all for the help.
From my own experience DVD Players/recorders have a propriety port, as in where you plug it in to must be a DVD compliant socket otherwise it wont record right.
If you could set up your system so that the TV connects to your receiver ( which plays the DVD??
 and connect this DVD recorder to the TV socket rca  > video in then it should record whatever you see on your TV.
fmichailAuthor Commented:
Hi Merete

As I indicated, I got the problem already solved by buying a new HDMI converter which contains a sound circuit on it. It is working fine for now.

Regarding your suggestion to provide the input to DVD recordder from the TV output, I do not have rca OR HDMI output on the TV. Thanks for replying.

I would recommend closing the question, however, I do not know how todo that.

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Thankyou fmichail, to close your question you can accept multiple responses or accept your own comment if that was the solution and no one had offered it.
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FYI there is these Universal Video RF Modulator

Glad to know you resolved it. :)
fmichailAuthor Commented:
I never knew that the HDMI converters  are not all alike, a technician told me that I need to have a converter which has an audio circuit in it and it was about $60. That worked for me.
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