VGA Monitor - Compatible?

Say, Server is NEC SI1310 PID0907853

Is the VGA Card compatible with below - the product is USB 2.0 UGA

http://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/591342

OS Win 7

Tx
shaunwinginAsked:
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Davis McCarnOwnerCommented:
The short answer is NO, the displaylink device is not compatible with the NEC PC.
Your issue is that the embedded video (ATI ES 1000) does not comply with the Windows/Directx minimum requirement standards and that link you provided is telling you that which may be a good thing.  Even if it did work, USB 2 is 50 times slower than regular old PCI (much less PCI-Express)
You would do much better to use a PCI card, something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-512-P1-N402-RX-GeForce-6200-512MB-64-Bit-DDR2-PCI-2-1-Video-Card-Manufactur-/301380755896?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item462bb161b8
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
tx. Was wondering if I could disable the VGA in BIOS and if the usb would autodetec- I doubt it tough....

PCI card great idea, but
Shipping: Does not ship to South Africa |

Can you find something in South Africa or thats ships here - been trying...
viki2000Commented:
There should be online stores in South Africa which sell video cards.
Her is one example:
http://www.comx-computers.co.za/computer-hardware-subcategories.php?cat=155

If I read right, your computer specifications are here:
http://www.nec-computers.com/support2/pib.asp?mode=default&platform=platform_SI1310

And I see:
"
Total Slots : 5
1x PCI-Express X8
1x PCI-Express X8
(Cabled X4)
1x PCI-ExpressX4
(Cabled X1)
2x 32bit/33MHz PCI
"

You have to check what slots do you have free. Maybe you can buy a PCI-Express video card with VGA output.
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shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
1x PCI-Express X8
1x PCI-Express X8
(Cabled X4)
1x PCI-ExpressX4

Are free but cannot find compatible VGA card as all are X16 or X2??

We seem to need refurbished PCI or else new card as above.... ??
viki2000Commented:
Here is an x8, but takes 300W and your power supply is only 400W as default, maybe you have to change it:
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4831#ov

I have read that you can install x1 graphic card in the slot of x4, with lower performance. That would be then another option.
Then maybe an adapter from x4 slot to x16 video card, of course with only x4 performance:
http://www.orbitmicro.com/global/arc1-08x16-x4-p-8227.html
http://www.orbitmicro.com/global/pciexpressx4tox16adapter-p-4568.html
but is not 100% warranty that always work.
Or x8 to x16:
http://www.orbitmicro.com/global/arc1-08x16-x8-p-8226.html
http://www.orbitmicro.com/global/pexp16-sx-16-8-p-755.html

The idea is that x16 video cards are most common nowadays, but you have to watch the physical dimensions, the place that you have in your PC and the power required by video card vs. power supply in the PC.
Now, to find that in South Africa, I do not know, but maybe some shops can send you worldwide if you pay online in advance, including the shipment.
rindiCommented:
You can install x2 cards into x4, x8 and x16 slots. If your short PCI express slots have an open end so also a longer card fits in mechanically, you can also use x16 cards inside short slots. In the attached picture you can see the the 2 smaller slots have open ends, so also larger cards fit into them.

PCIe Open end
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
Tx the
PCI Express X8 to X16 Adapter or
PCI Express X4 to X16 Adapter
seems best idea - seen it available in South Africa?
To ship from abroad not an option for such a small item.
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
afraid don;t think any open ends in this model....
rindiCommented:
But you said that X2 cards are available in your place, and those would fit into X2, X4, X8 and X16 slots, so such a card wouldn't have any problems with your available slots.
viki2000Commented:
The second hand one suggested above is AGP not PCI Express, so forget about it.
One more here, but again takes 300W:
This video card: http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/GT720SL2GD3BRK/overview/
You may buy it online at 3 webstores in South Africa here: http://www.pricecheck.co.za/offers/66780146/Asus+Gt720-sl-2gd3+Gt+720+64bit+Silent+Desktop+Graphics+Card
More specs here: http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/nvidiageforcegraphicscards/nvidiagt720series/gt720-sl-2gd3-brk.html
 Where you can see it has  1 x DSub (VGA)  and compatible slots 1 x PCI Express x16 or x8

At least you got some online stores in South Africa. You may contact them directly and ask what they can offer for your case:
https://www.estorm.co.za/
http://www.zapsonline.com/
http://www.wootware.co.za/
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
viki2000 Great idea - any more - I've tried to search but no luck -
Alos can you find anyone in South Africa selling the
PCI Express X8 to X16 Adapter or
PCI Express X4 to X16 Adapter
viki2000Commented:
I do not know about that, but you can buy online from ebay.com with 19$ and then they send it to South Africa for 13$, so a total of 32$:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ARC108X16X8-PCIe-x8-adapter-and-extender-/271126255060?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f206255d4
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
viki2000 Tx , but the 300W item is just too costly - a 2nd hand item in South Africa be great.
Like this:
http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/185570592/ASUS_N6200_TD_128_GeForce_6200_128MB_64_Bit_DDR_AGP_4X_8X_Video_Card.html

If can buy this in South Africa or equivalanet be great but too difficult from abroad:
ARC108X16X8 PCIe x8 adapter and extender
Davis McCarnOwnerCommented:
I would not try an adapter if I were you.  Your NEC server is likely to be persnickety and, with PCI-E X16, there are several standards and many new cards won't work in that 2007 slot even if you manage to get it in.
I would suggest your best bet is to start calling computer repair shops in your area and tell them you want a used PCI graphics card ( Not PCI-Express ) with 128MB (or more) video memory. NVidia FX5200, 5500, or 6200 chips are all good choices and, here in the US, would be under $30 US.
viki2000Commented:
I agree with DavisMcCarn. Call the shops directly there and forget about adapters and x16 cards.
rindiCommented:
Or as I mentioned, get one of those x2 cards which are available at your place.
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
tx Guys - great advice
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
Say, Is this card compatible with Windows 7?
viki20002015-05-20 at 13:06:16ID: 40787072
How about a second hand one in South Africa?
http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/185570592/ASUS_N6200_TD_128_GeForce_6200_128MB_64_Bit_DDR_AGP_4X_8X_Video_Card.html
rindiCommented:
Yes, if you visit the nVidia site and check the drivers available there, you'll see that there are Windows 7 drivers available. But that is an AGP card, and as far as I know your server doesn't have an AGP slot.
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
Tx Rindi - good point. Would one get 2nd hand PCI cards that are Windows 7 Compatible?
rindiCommented:
Sure, almost anything is available 2nd hand. Personally though I'd try getting a PCI express card, as that should perform better, even if it is just a PCIe x2 card.
shaunwinginAuthor Commented:
pls check if available : 2nd hand PCI cards that are Windows 7 Compatible?
Davis McCarnOwnerCommented:
Almost any PCI video card with 128MB or more of memory will be Windows 7 compatible.  Beyond that, you have to choose based upon your budget and what is available.  Unfortunately; there are almost NO shopping links which pop for us in your country.
rindiCommented:
I think you must do that yourself, locally. Most web sites like ebay etc are localized for the country you live in. If I look from Switzerland I'd get different results, and I wouldn't be sure whether it would get delivered to SA. Besides, there may be other local 2nd hand or auction portals there too. Another thing you'd have to consider is that shipping will also cost more from abroad, and with all that added things may get more expensive than if you bought something new in a local shop, and you'd get warranty that way. If you buy from abroad you can never be sure of what you get, and if you get it, and it is harder force your rights.

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