Windows 8.1 Pro testing with WSUS

Seems as though this client only installs updates when clicking into control panel as opposed to my Win7 machines installing on shutdown.

Is this normal?
Can i force updates to install on shut-down?

Thanks
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Joseph MoodyBlogger and wearer of all hats.Commented:
That isn't normal - they should install updates on shutdown. Do you have the auto installation set in Group Policy (same setting used to control Windows 7 install behavior)?
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McKnifeCommented:
It's a different behavior actually. That's because of win8.x's new features "kernel hibernation"/"fasts startup". You will only see "install updates and shutdown" if it already happened, so if updates are already installed, waiting for completion of the process.

What you will see with win8.x, normally, is "install updates and restart". That is due to the nature if kernel hibernation: it is no full shutdown. A restart however, is a full shutdown.
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CHI-LTDAuthor Commented:
Windows Components/Windows Updatehide
Policy Setting Comment
Allow Automatic Updates immediate installation Enabled  
Automatic Updates detection frequency Enabled  
Check for updates at the following
interval (hours):  3
 
Policy Setting Comment
Configure Automatic Updates Enabled  
Configure automatic updating: 3 - Auto download and notify for install
The following settings are only required
and applicable if 4 is selected.
Scheduled install day:  0 - Every day
Scheduled install time: 17:00
 
Policy Setting Comment
No auto-restart with logged on users for scheduled automatic updates installations Enabled  
Reschedule Automatic Updates scheduled installations Enabled  
Wait after system
startup (minutes):  60
 
Policy Setting Comment
Specify intranet Microsoft update service location Enabled  
Set the intranet update service for detecting updates: http://server
Set the intranet statistics server: http://server
(example: http://IntranetUpd01)
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McKnifeCommented:
Have you read and understood my comment? Or did it just come in while you were typing? It explains the behavior. To enforce a different behavior, you would need to disallow fast startup.
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CHI-LTDAuthor Commented:
while typing.

sorry where is this setting?
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McKnifeCommented:
See hints at http://blogs.technet.com/b/keithmayer/archive/2012/11/05/supporting-windows-8-fast-startup-with-group-policy.aspx
Please look at the final note "If disabled or not configured, the local PC settings for hibernation and Fast Startup will take affect." - this means, that you cannot enforce izt using GPOs but only GPPs registry manipulation: set a registry key using group policy preferences: At HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Power, Value HiberbootEnabled ->set it to 0
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CHI-LTDAuthor Commented:
so i need to disabled this setting?
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McKnifeCommented:
Win8.x will very likely behave like 7 when disabled, yes.
But you need to think about the downside (slower startup).
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CHI-LTDAuthor Commented:
well i have disabled this and updates are still not applying...
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McKnifeCommented:
Let me try this on a test client soon. Will update this with the result.
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McKnifeCommented:
Ok, spent some time with it and turned up the following:
-it was removed in win8.x
-it will only show in 8.x if updates are already installed and a restart i spending
-it is considered to reintroduce it in win 10

workarounds:
-classic shell does offer this button and it works
-shutdown -s -t 1 will install the updates as well

But the rest works as before, so if you setup a policy for updates to install automatically then that will be done.
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CHI-LTDAuthor Commented:
so win8 doesnt work like win7 and win10?
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McKnifeCommented:
No.
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CHI-LTDAuthor Commented:
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