How to arrange the "apps" (on the apps page) in windows 8..........

In windows 8 - I am NOT talking about the "tiles" (the main page of different size tiles).... I am talking about the next page which has all the apps arranged by Category (or other way of splitting them up... if you choose). For the life of me I cannot figure out how to RE-ARRANGE this page and put my apps in groups of my choosing. For example - lets say I want to put all Adobe software in a group called "Adobe"........ How do I do this? Am I permitted to move any and all apps on this page (are any not moveable by default by Microsoft?) - and put them in catagories that I create? I would appreciate as much detail in your instructions as possible.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
On the "second page" of apps (click down arrow lower left) If you keep scrolling right, categories show up further to the right. If you click on the down arrow beside Apps, you can arrange by Name, Date Installed, Most Used or by Category.

Try that.
David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
I know what you are getting at and you can't change the ordering.. What you should be doing is.. hit the start key and start typing in the name of the app you want to launch. What I do is order by date installed for new programs, or most used depending upon the situation.
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
You CAN change the ordering of the second app screen as I noted above. The options are limited but are there.
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LuoyadanAuthor Commented:
Are you all (both) saying that what I want to do CANNOT BE DONE? For example - my sample situation I posted about making an "Adobe group".... this really cannot be done?

If I am misreading this and it can be done - please explain (again in greater detail) how to do it.

Thanks So much,
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Check my post. There is a down arrow beside APPS on the second screen and you CAN order by name, installed date, most used or category.

Try it out and see how it works.
David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
All users Start Menu
you can create your own categories in C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\
Individual User Start menu
C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
by creating a new folder
you will then move the shortcuts into this new folder
you will have to say yes or yes to all when the UAC dialogue pops up.

You will have to stop all instances of explorer and then restart explorer for these changes to come into effect.

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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Just to belt and suspender, you can do what I am saying in the APPS second page directly. Try it and see.
LuoyadanAuthor Commented:
John Hurst,

It seems you did not read my question - You keep saying something I already know - I am trying to set up MY OWN SPECIAL WAY OR SORTING THE FILES. What you are saying is not what I want to accomplish.

JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
I read your question. The ONLY way you can arrange the apps is with the groupings provided by the Windows 8.1 apps page. You cannot arrange them to your own choosing.

On the main page of apps (not so many Icons) you can resize and drag them around as you need.

But the second page is fixed in the way Windows 8.1 set it up.
LuoyadanAuthor Commented:
I will accept the answer by David Johnson - although I have not tried his suggestion yet - his answer seems to make the most sense - and it appears to be the most in depth answer and one that is the closest answer to what my question actually was - and because EE does not like questions left open - I need to close the question -Thanks.
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Please let us know if it works.

I have so many programs (hundreds if I count all forms) that (a) Metro is useless to me (b) I work only from the Desktop and of course Windows always could arrange desktop icons any way we wished and (c) otherwise, I need alphabetic sorting anyway.
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