A Question about permissions

Server running Server 2008 r2, machine running Windows 8 home tries to access a folder that has been shared from the server so that everyone can either read or write to it.  The folder is not inheriting any permissions from its parents.  When I try to map the drive to the Windows 8 Home machine, the server wants a user name and password.

The object is to allow the folder to be shared with no authentication required, I'm pretty sure the reason is that the machine doesn't belong to the Domain but just want a second opinion
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Windows Home is NOT meant for business and never was. Do your Pro machines have permission issues?  If no, then upgrade the machine to Pro. I have no difficulty with Windows 8.1 Pro machines talking to Windows Server 2008 on or off domain.
Scott GorcesterCTOCommented:
John is correct that home is not designed to work in a domain. You can however still connect to resources and more than likely achieve what you need. If you attach to a domain resource you should be able to submit a domain account and connect. ou user account on the PC is of course a local account that has not rights to connect to the domain.

Also your server may not be in a domain as you did not indicate it was a domain controller. In this case you can create a workgroup and use a peer to peer method to connect.

There is a discussion here that suggests the possible need for a registry change.

Scott Gorcester MCITP
c7c4c7Author Commented:
The server is running as a domain controller.  I know that Home wasn't designed to run in a business environment but unfortunately I don't always have control of what the owner does all of the time.

I know I can connect to the server by supplying an account on the server as I have done that, but the owner doesn't want to have to supply a userid and password to access the folder.

So what I am trying to get an answer to is the specific reason why it wants a userid and password when I say everyone has a right to write and read from that folder.  If the reason is as I suspect it's not a member of the Domain and everyone means everyone that has a userid and password on Domain and everyone that is not part of the Domain has to give userid and password of a user on the domain then I'm good with that and the owner then gets to make up his mind if he wants have his machine upgraded
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
The owner needs to upgrade or else use workarounds. They CANNOT expect a crippled operating system made for children to work like a professional system.

I always have to supply username and password to access server folders when not on domain. That is how it works.
David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
Within a domain the server when a client tries to connect it presents its credentials and the server looks up the credentials and depending upon the share level authorization allows the connection and then ntfs permissions come into play.. A workgroup computer presents its computername\username and password.. the server looks up the information and not getting a match from its database denies the connection.

What to do .... Use the credential manager so when you try and connect to \\server you save the username and password that the server knows about and it will automatically do its lookup and say.. you want to connect to \\server I have credentials for that lets try them first.

Moral of the story: go into control panel / credential manager and enter in the domain credentials needed. Problem solved.

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c7c4c7Author Commented:
David, thanks for that information.  I never even knew the credential manager even existed.

So to just repeat what I think you said.  When I upgrade the machine to  Pro, connect the machine to the Domain and log into the Domain the userid and password being used on the workstation will be passed to the server and it will be allowed full right to the folder without any subsequent authentication.  Using the current everyone read/write permission.
David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
Yes once connected to the domain every time you try and access a network resource the connection is authenticated using a token so if that token (useraccount/password) is valid then it silently continues
c7c4c7Author Commented:
Perfect answer, thanks for the detailed response
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