SBS2011 to Exchange & Server 2013 - can CALs be xferred?

Hi folks,

We're looking to move from SBS2011 to an AD environment including Exchange 2011 (or 2013) on its own. Is there a way to transfer CALs from the existing SBS2011 Exchange instance to a new one? We'd have to install a new instance of Exchange for the migration in order to move users over, so you probably can't but any advice would be appreciated. I'm looking at costs etc for the 365 route as well, but exploring all avenues at the moment.

Thanks,
Evren
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Wayne88Commented:
You cannot use SBS CALs for a full  server whether it be Exchange, Windows, SQL server etc.  SBS CAL is a special CAL MS offered for small businesses which cover Server, Exchange and SQL per CAL.

" If you are running multiple Microsoft server products, remember that there are CALs associated with each and you would need to acquire the appropriate CALs for each. For instance, if you are running Microsoft Windows Server and Microsoft Exchange Server, you would need both a Microsoft Windows Server CAL and a Microsoft Exchange Server CAL to access these servers since Microsoft Exchange uses Active Directory (Windows Server technology) for authentication; therefore, you are accessing both the Microsoft Windows Server and the Microsoft Exchange server when checking your email."

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/mssmallbiz/archive/2007/11/06/5942350.aspx

However, there are exceptions:

"The SBS R2 CALs now allow the access of not only the SBS R2 Server itself, but also any additional Exchange Standard or SQL Workgroup Edition member servers in the SBS R2 domain.  The reason it is Exchange Standard and SQL Workgroup is because those are the versions included in SBS.

Expanded CAL rights allows Users or Devices (depending which type of CALs you have), the rights to access the member servers.  They do NOT provide licenses for those additional servers themselves (i.e. If you install an Exchange member server or a SQL member server, you need to buy those Exchange or SQL Server licenses) nor do they provide the rights to split your SBS R2 Server components across multiple servers.  This is additional member server access rights just like you had for Windows Server member servers in pre-R2 SBS CALs, except now it also applies to Exchange and SQL."

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/mssmallbiz/archive/2006/07/12/663269.aspx

Please check with your software vendor in the regard to MS CAL policy as they changes and get updated all the time.
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Simon Butler (Sembee)ConsultantCommented:
Not withstanding above, if you are going to Exchange 2013, then your SBS CALs do not apply, as SBS 2011 is Exchange 2010. CALs are NOT cross version up (you can downgrade on CALs).

Therefore if you are going to Windows 2012 or later with Exchange 2013 then your SBS CALs are useless to you and you need to buy everything fresh.

Simon.
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Jonathan MarshallICT ManagerAuthor Commented:
Guys - apologies for the delayed reply & thanks for the advice. So if we had a secondary Exchange server within the SBS domain then we could use the CALs provided its Ex 2010, plus the licence cost for Exchange itself.
Does that mean we could use the same domain and just install a DC with DHCP, DNS etc, plus a secondary Exchange 2010 server, migrate the users over using the existing CALs and then demote the SBS DC and decommission and also decommission the SBS Exchange?

Thanks,
Evren
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Simon Butler (Sembee)ConsultantCommented:
The SBS CALs are only valid with an SBS Server installed.
Therefore if you remove the SBS server then you will need to purchase the full Windows and Exchange CALs.

Basically if you want to remove the SBS Server, you will be buying new licences.

Simon.
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Jonathan MarshallICT ManagerAuthor Commented:
Thanks Simon, its as I thought it would be. Currently looking at costs for in house Exchange vs 365, will take it from there.
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