SQL SERVER PASS Conference - Equivilant for Developer's

It seems to me, from what I've looked at online, PASS is geared more for DBAs and "accidental" DBAs. For those who have been, please correct me if I am wrong.
Is there a "version" of PASS that is primarily for database developers? If so, can you provide the details?
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Éric MoreauSenior .Net ConsultantCommented:
You are right. I have been to the Pass Conference a couple of years ago and it is mostly targeted to DBAs.

I have never seen a database dev conf. You sometimes have sessions here and there but not a full schedule around it.
Jim HornSQL Server Data DudeCommented:
What do you mean by 'SQL SERVER PASS Conference'?  If you're referring to PASS Summit, when I attended in 2012 (with ValentinoV) there were 15 different classes in each session, 15 sessions total, and there were always multiple developer and BI classes available.  

I'm signed up for this year.  Looking at the 2015 class list they have 44 out of 181 classes under 'Application & Database Development'.
Doug BishopDatabase DeveloperAuthor Commented:
Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I was referring to PASS Summit. It still seems geared PRIMARILY to DBAs. 44 out of 181 is less than 25%. I'd like to see something like PASS where 75% was geared to database developers and 25% to DBAs. I found a link to a conference called DEVintersection, and wonder if anyone has any experience with it, or perhaps another.
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Jim HornSQL Server Data DudeCommented:
Understand, and yes DBA's were still the #1 group, but considering 15 classes per session, 25%ish still translates to 3-4 different developer classes per session.

If memory serves out of the 15 I attended I did all developer classes except for one professional development and a couple Power BI toolset classes.  But a couple were in between developer and DBA, such as DMV's.   I sat in on a session about Columnstore Indexes from the engineer that actually invented them.

Vendor's Row was enormous but didn't help me all that much, other than some Q&A with RedGate, and a Microsoft guy who help me install SQL Server Data Tools (SSDT) as I had some install issues, so I can create data projects > schema compare.

If it helps I have something like 15 pages of notes from the 2012 summit I can post in this question for you to review.

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Jim HornSQL Server Data DudeCommented:
35 pages of notes attached.  Hope this helps.  -Jim
ValentinoVBI ConsultantCommented:
As Jim already mentioned I also attended the PASS Summit in 2012.  True, the number of DBA sessions is higher than those for developers.  But to be honest, I don't care (I'm a developer btw, used to be .NET/java, now MS BI).  There are way too many to choose from anyway, you can only attend 1 out of the 15 session each hour so I'm sure you'll be able to keep yourself busy.

Also, as a senior developer I'm actually interested in some of those "dba" sessions as well,  take this one for instance: "Monster Text Manipulation: Regular Expressions for the DBA" (found through PASS Summit 2015 sessions).  Sure would love to see that one!
Doug BishopDatabase DeveloperAuthor Commented:
Thanks for all the input and thanks for the notes Jim. I still would be interested to know if there are any conferences similar to PASS but geared more towards the developer with some DBA stuff thrown in. And I agree, there are probably far more sessions available than any one person can attend. You probably need to have 5 people from your company attend and each go to different sessions, because I am SURE there will be two you really want to attend going on at the same time :-)
Jim HornSQL Server Data DudeCommented:
Last I remember you can also buy the DVD video of every session for something like $300.
ValentinoVBI ConsultantCommented:
hehe, was going to say the same as Jim: you can go for the package deal which includes access to the recordings :)
Jim HornSQL Server Data DudeCommented:
Thanks for the split, good luck with your training.  

Not intentionally trying to schill for PASS Summit, I just don't know of any more developer-focused conferences out there.  Really the only other option would be some kind of multi-day MOC curriculum training session somewhere, and then you'd lose the variety of picking and choosing your topics.

 I asked a Microsoft data platform employee buddy about TechNet, below is his response.


Damn straight Cloud.

PASS in probably the best SQL related conference these days. Tech Ed has actually been replaced by Ignite. There are good SQL classes there but lots of other stuff like .NET, Web, Infrastructure. I might be at PASS this year but likely not. Lots of cool stuff coming out in the next 12 months.


On 7/29/15, 11:28 AM, Jim Horn wrote:
Hi Mike

Quick question on Tech Ed: Would you say that most of the SQL Server classes there are DBA related, Developer related, or even? I have a guy asking about developer training, and specifically if there's anything with a greater developer concentration than PASS Summit.

Hope all is well.

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Jim HornSQL Server Data DudeCommented:
Now if That Conference had a SQL developers component that would be killer.
I can handle a technical conference with 20+ water parks within a couple of miles.
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