New PC Build: Opinion About Direction to Go & Suggestion Between 2 Builds

Hey Guys -

After 2-3 years of use, I'm starting to have issues with my primary desktop.  Recently (and despite OS re-installs), the only way I can get it not to freeze soon after boot is by under-clocking the CPU in the BIOS (below OEM suggested speeds).   What makes this difficult is that it's not thermal related as all temps are well within range.

Anyways, below is a list of what the system is used for and it's specs.  I'm going to try to salvage a couple of parts from it for the new build.  Below that are my questions and 2 builds I made to decide from...

What The System is For
- It's my primary system
- Stays on 24/7
- Hosts 7-8 Python & HTTP based apps
- Media server (Mostly SMB traffic from local computers running Kodi)
- FTP / FTPS / SSH Server
- Virtual Machines
- Gaming
- Pretty much everything :)

Current System Specs
- OS: Windows 8.1 x64 Ent. (Fully Patched)
- CPU: Intel 3770k CPU (Currently underclocked from 3,000ghz to about 2600ghz via BIOS)
- Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H (f15q (latest) BIOS)
- RAM: 16gb Kingston DDR3-1333 SDRAM (Also underclocked about 15% via BIOS)
- Drives:
   - x1 256gb Samsung 850 Pro SSD (OS Installed)
   - x1 32tb Drive Pool (Stablebit)
      - x1 256gb Samsung 840 Pro SSD (pool's data transfer cache)
      - x9 SATA Disks (each is 3-5gb)
   - x1 500gb Hybrid disk (Game installs & App Caches)
- Video: Nvidia Geforce GTX660 3gb
- Power 1000 watt Corsair /w smart connection

Questions
1. Should I go with a lower end LGA2011-v3 build or higher end LGA1150 one?  It seems that LGA1150 is being phased out and I want to be able to upgrade later so the base system lasts longer.
2. Is it currently worth the extra cost of LGA-2011v3 instead of LGA1150?  Keep in mind I'd have to purchase all brand new RAM, too.  
3.  Is there another socket I should look at (newer than LGA 2011v3 instead?

Base Builds to Pick From
Below are the two base builds (1 per socket type) that I've got in mind.  If you suggest something different for either no matter which I choose, please let me know...

LGA1150 Build
- CPU: Intel i7-4790K
- Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H-BK
- RAM: Undecided - Would like to have a total of 32gb and considered using at least some of old ram (4x4gb) but would obviously like to still use old PC for something

LGA2011v3 Build
- CPU: Intel i7-5820K
- Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-SOC
- RAM: GSkill 32gb (4 x 8gb) F4-2400C15q-32GRR

Applies to Both
- Windows 10 x64
- Case: Undecided
- Video:  Use existing GTX660 (Can use CPU integrated graphics for old PC when retired)
- Power: Use existing 1000w power supply (Have old ~300W I can use for retired PC)
- SATA: MB has 10 sata ports.  Plan on installing one of my PCI-E SATA cards (adds 2 ports) in it

Overall, it's going to cost me a lot more to get the 2011v3, I don't have unlimited funds whatsoever, and don't know if it would be worth it.  However, if it future proofs the new build by a year or more, it might be enough to make me get it.  Any suggestions or opinions are welcome.

Thanks Guys!
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rindiCommented:
My first advice would be to rethink this and try to get your current system running properly. Maybe instead of Windows 8.1 you could try another OS. For example, I have a system with windows 7, 8.1 and 10 installed, and Windows 8.1 is definitely the slowest of all, actually it is terribly slow compared to the others, and they are all setup the same way with the same software. So maybe an upgrade to Windows 10 could make your system work well again. Windows 8.x is and was the worst OS m$ ever conjured up, and this test of mine absolutely verifies this.

Although with the enterprise version of Windows 8.1 you don't qualify for the free upgrade to 10, that would still be cheaper than a new PC, and you can get the trial version to do some testing first. Besides that, I don't really know why you need an enterprise version of the OS for your environment. Enterprise can only be bought as a volume license, and for private use it doesn't make much sense. The only real added option you get with it is Windows to Go.

Another thing that will usually slow your PC down is crapware like Symantec AV (norton) etc. If you happen to run such "malware", replace it with something good, like Panda Antivirus which runs really reliably and doesn't slow your PC. Besides, if this is for personal use, you can use the free version which is perfect.

Another thing I'd probably think of is to use a separate PC as Kodi backend. I'm using an old Lenovo Thinkcentre 78G with an Intel core 2 Duo 2GHz CPU, 2GB RAM running Makulu Linux XFCE, tvheadend as I have attached an HD TV card, and Kodi which connects to tvheadend on it. It works perfectly well, so for that you don't need anything highend, and such a dedicated PC would free up resources on your main PC.

Otherwise, the 1150 isn't being phased out. Although there's a new LGA1151 that has been released, that is still very new and in my point of view far too expensive at the moment. LGA1150  with the Haswell is still very good. I have an Asus z87m plus which works very well.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
I think that either of the 2 CPU's you suggest will run Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 very fast. I have an i5 that came with Windows 8 and it is very fast - faster than my Windows 7 with i5 and comparable disk / memory.

Now my laptop is Windows 10 Pro and performs very well (as fast as Windows 8.1) . It is a wee bit slower starting, but once running , it is nice and fast..

Windows 10 is now the way forward so I suggest you start with Windows 10. It is going to be the "current" operating system for a long time.
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
go to SKYLAKE  1151 motherboards you will get the same performance from a $350 CPU as a $1K Haswell CPU, requires DDR4 though. The 20x PCIe 3.0 lanes help things out.. though it is a bit tricky on the initial setup.  http://bit.ly/1MhGdGg
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
x1 32tb Drive Pool (Stablebit) why this and not the native storage spaces?
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BzowKAuthor Commented:
Thanks Guys -

Going to try to address everything if possible...

rindi:  Thanks, but I am currently running 8.1 as I had the issue with 7 which is why I went to 8.1 in hopes it may run differently.  I was in the Windows 10 Preview program and have two laptops running RTM.  Still haven't decided if 10 would be good on the PC given all it does or not yet, but have licenses for it.  As for Malware / crapware, I'm good.  I do run many apps, but perform a fresh OS reinstall every 3 months or so just to clean things up a bit.  I keep track of each process / service running and try to keep it tuned.

John:  Thanks.  Think I'm sticking with the i7, though.  Forgot to mention that I also do a fair amount of video converting so CPU is kind of important.  That's why if I went to LGA2011v3, would probably start at lowest i7 end.

David:  Thanks, I'll check that out.  So 1151 is replacing 1150?  If so, where does 2011v3 fit in the mix?   Also, I'm using Stablebit's DrivePool since I started the whole pool in Windows 7 a bit over a year ago plus really like their software's features including support for a specific drive to perform all writes (I use SSD / used to use velociraptor) which caches written data to other disks on schedule or based on other rules.  Also offer Stablebit Scanner which works with DrivePool to watch over disk specs, stats, and issues.  If issues are detected, will immediately move data off - lots of options, really.  Prior to this used DriveSpace, but didn't like it and had issues.  Haven't used Storage Spaces much due to this.  Is it any good besides being native?

I guess my biggest question above was to see what the order of the different sockets are and what their current life may be like.  Seems 1150 may be going out, that 1151 is replacing it, but don't know where 2011v3 fits in.

Thanks
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
it's going to cost me a lot more to get the 2011v3, I don't have unlimited funds ,,,
However, if it future proofs the new build by a year or more, it might be enough to make me get it.


I think you will be OK for the near term spending a bit less money. You cannot really future proof and 3 years from now, something we never thought of will be out.

I got good performance from Windows 8 and I am getting good performance with Windows 10, so I don't suggest sticking with Window 7.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Thanks and good luck with your choice of machines.
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