server 2012 Hypervisor

I am using virtual box to run server 2012 hyper-v,  I am trying to create a virtual machine in prepreaition for deployment using xendesktop 7.6.  after connecting to the hyper'v server and creating the vm, then trying to the start the vm I get this error "the application encountered an error while attempting to change the state of win70811".  win70811 is the name of the vm I create.  please help if you know a solution

 Thanks
phillip bessixAsked:
Who is Participating?

[Product update] Infrastructure Analysis Tool is now available with Business Accounts.Learn More

x
I wear a lot of hats...

"The solutions and answers provided on Experts Exchange have been extremely helpful to me over the last few years. I wear a lot of hats - Developer, Database Administrator, Help Desk, etc., so I know a lot of things but not a lot about one thing. Experts Exchange gives me answers from people who do know a lot about one thing, in a easy to use platform." -Todd S.

David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
hyper-V requires a Type 1 Hypervisor which will not run in a type 2 hypervisor
kevinhsiehCommented:
You can't nest Hyper-V inside Virtual Box. Install Hyper-V Server or Windows Server directly on the hardware, and then create your VMs inside Hyper-V. It is possible to next Hyper-V inside VMware vSphere, and it will be possible to nest the next version of Hyper-V inside of Hyper-V, if you have the correct processor type.

Experts Exchange Solution brought to you by

Your issues matter to us.

Facing a tech roadblock? Get the help and guidance you need from experienced professionals who care. Ask your question anytime, anywhere, with no hassle.

Start your 7-day free trial
phillip bessixAuthor Commented:
Brian,

I am stuck at trying to create VM templates, I have tried SCVMM, all post out there say SCVMM will not work secondary to another virtual environment like VirtualBox.  I have tried XenServer 6.2 and XenCenter, I can create the VM but I am unable to start it, I get error: There were no servers available to complete specific operation and   hvm is required for this operation.  I have research and it appears it’s the same issue when trying to run this operation in an environment like VirtualBox.  Brian if this was a physical machine all the Kb’s out there say to enableVirtualization Technology (VT), this is enabled on my PC  the virtual environment is installed on.  I want try VMware ESXi 6 but not sure if I would be wasting my time.  I have learned a lot in the last 7 days but the limited resources is getting the best of me.  Do you have suggestion for getting a working virtual lab setup?
Protecting & Securing Your Critical Data

Considering 93 percent of companies file for bankruptcy within 12 months of a disaster that blocked access to their data for 10 days or more, planning for the worst is just smart business. Learn how Acronis Backup integrates security at every stage

kevinhsiehCommented:
Ditch VirtualBox completely. Install Hyper-V on your hardware. Start your lab exercises. Virtual Box is not good for learning other virtualization technologies. If you want to learn Hyper-V, use Hyper-V.
phillip bessixAuthor Commented:
Can you give a template to go by,  I'm trying to do what I've never done.  Hyper-V is my Hypervisor,   what do I use to create my servers.?
kevinhsiehCommented:
I often times just create VMs from scratch. I assign the .ISO installation media to the VM's DVD drive, and then do the installation. Afterwards I make a copy of the VHDX file for use with other machines so I don't have to do the whole OS installation and patching again.

Install Hyper-V and create a virtual machine
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/Hh846766.aspx
David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
SCVMM works with all type 1 Hypervisors. A type 1 hypervisor loads as the operating system and cannnot be a child of a type 2 hypervisor. One normally has the virtual machine computer and the management computer. Ergo you need 2 machines.  Microsoft has added hyper-v as a role in their operating systems and you can use just 1 machine for both the host and the management computer.
phillip bessixAuthor Commented:
I main purpose for this lab  is to learn xendesktop 7.6,  I installed a Virtual Box Hyper-V server , I would get this error ( Hyper-v windows hypervisor must be running  VM not on)   so what do I create my DC controller and workstations with?  I know I'm making this harder than it should be
phillip bessixAuthor Commented:
I came create the vm but it errors out when I try to start the machine
David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
I installed a Virtual Box Hyper-V server you can't run a type 1 hpervisor in a type 2 hypervisor nor can you have 2 type 1 hypervisors running on the same machine
phillip bessixAuthor Commented:
have you been successful  setting  up this type of lab,  do you have a template for the infrastructure,  and what OS  App you used
kevinhsiehCommented:
VirtualBox will make working with Hyper-V impossible. Stop trying. Load Hyper-V on whatever hardware you want to use and go from there.
phillip bessixAuthor Commented:
could this work , VM workstation 9, run VM server  6  on top of that , create a 2012 DC and 2012 server install xendesktop 7.6 on it .  create 2 win 7 workstation .   I think this will take care of that type 1 and 2 virtual problem.
David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
Why are you not even considering running hyper-v on the host machine but want to use other type 2 hypervisors?
phillip bessixAuthor Commented:
David

your infrastructure would consist of what?  

VM workstation, ESXI server 6.0,  run my  2012 Server DC, my 2012 Server XenDesktop 7.6 and 2 workstations windows 8 and 7.  

You suggest the remove the ESXI and use SCVMM 2012?
kevinhsiehCommented:
Look at the system requirements.
http://docs.citrix.com/en-us/xenapp-and-xendesktop/7-6/xad-system-requirements-76.html

Pick ONE of the supported hypervisor platforms: XenServer, VMware vSphere, or Hyper-V with System Center VMM. VMware Workstation and Virtual Box are not supported platforms.
David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
I  am recommending not using Vmware Workstation or Virtualbox
phillip bessixAuthor Commented:
David

tell me what virtual infrastructure should be  what else should I use,with scvmm
David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
It's more than this solution.Get answers and train to solve all your tech problems - anytime, anywhere.Try it for free Edge Out The Competitionfor your dream job with proven skills and certifications.Get started today Stand Outas the employee with proven skills.Start learning today for free Move Your Career Forwardwith certification training in the latest technologies.Start your trial today
Hyper-V

From novice to tech pro — start learning today.