MS Access - legit copy

https://www.buymsoffice.co.uk/microsoft-access-2010.html

hi experts,

can you confirm if this is legit or not?

I have never used the site before, its hard to tell.

have anyone used this before?
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Scott McDaniel (Microsoft Access MVP - EE MVE )Infotrakker SoftwareCommented:
That's hard to say. I don't see where they are a "Microsoft Partner", which is generally the way things are laid out if they're selling legit copies. Often they'll sell you an Academic version, or something with a volume license key.

FWIW, Amazon has it listed at well above the price of your link, but a Google search shows some other pricing in line with the one you linked - so it's hard to tell on price alone.

Best thing you could do is email them and ask them specific questions:

1. Is this an academic version?

2. Is this an OEM version (like one that would be sold with a new computer)?

3. Is this part of a volume licensing plan?

4. Are you a Microsoft Partner?

If they can't say NO to the first 3, and YES to the last one, I'd look elsewhere.
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peggiegregAuthor Commented:
Hi Scott,

they use a live chat on the website which I am going to use to ask these questions, I will post results below:

John: Hello peggiegreg. How may I help you?

peggiegreg: https://www.buymsoff….uk/microsoft-access-2010.htmlDownload Microsoft Office Access 2010Download Microsoft Office Access 2010 software Online, we will guarantee the lowest price with free shipping and money back guarantee
peggiegreg: is this an academic version?
peggiegreg: hello john?

John: Hi Peggie

John: No it is not

John: Its Microsoft Access 2010 Standalone retail version

peggiegreg: thank you, can you tell me if you are a Microsoft partner?

 John: We are Peggie

 peggiegreg: thank you


its hard to say! really hard and I don't think I will get a 100% answer either
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Scott McDaniel (Microsoft Access MVP - EE MVE )Infotrakker SoftwareCommented:
I don't see the "Microsoft Partner" tag listed anywhere on their site, or anything else that would suggest they are officially licensed to sell the product. I'm always leery of sites like this.

Here's what MSFT has to say about purchasing keys (which is essentially what you're doing):

With the exception of Product Key Cards (PKC’s) distributed with COA’s, Microsoft does not distribute products keys as standalone products. If you see a listing on an auction site, online classified ad, or other online page advertising product keys for sale, it’s a good indication that the keys are likely stolen or counterfeit.

From here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/howtotell/Shop.aspx

Can you not go with 2013/2016? You can buy the subscription to that for around $8/month US.
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peggiegregAuthor Commented:
that's very helpful Scott, I cant unfortunately because it is integrating into a software platform designed in the late 90s. the newer versions wouldn't work.

I think this has given me enough to think about, and being a professional business we might be better off paying slightly more for the reassurance that the product is legit.
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Scott McDaniel (Microsoft Access MVP - EE MVE )Infotrakker SoftwareCommented:
I would agree - I've been burned in the past when buying these sorts of things.

You might contact Microsoft directly to ask about authorized resellers in your area. They maintain a listing, I believe, of their authorized resellers.

Or you can always purchase an MSDN subscription, which gives you copies of most of the MSFT sotware line. They're not cheap, but if you're in the IT business it's a very nice thing to have.
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Jim Dettman (Microsoft MVP/ EE MVE)President / OwnerCommented:
<<Or you can always purchase an MSDN subscription, which gives you copies of most of the MSFT sotware line. They're not cheap, but if you're in the IT business it's a very nice thing to have. >>

Just note that you can't use it for any type of production use.  MSDN is only allowed to be used for internal development.  I know Scott is aware of this, but it might not have been entirely clear from his comment in response to the question asked.

Jim.
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Scott McDaniel (Microsoft Access MVP - EE MVE )Infotrakker SoftwareCommented:
True, with the single exception being Office Pro Plus at the Enterprise level MSDN subscription. This allows Office use with both Dev and Production environments. See this page:

https://www.visualstudio.com/products/msdn-subscriptions-vs

That said - it's a pretty expensive option just to get Access 2010!
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Jim Dettman (Microsoft MVP/ EE MVE)President / OwnerCommented:
<<This allows Office use with both Dev and Production environments. See this page:>>

  Um....I don't see that.  It allows your to publish to the store with your subscription, but that's just a form of development; was that what you were referring to?

  As far as I know, MSDN is still strictly development use only.

Jim.
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Jim Dettman (Microsoft MVP/ EE MVE)President / OwnerCommented:
Scott,

 I see now where your looking, but I think that's a bit of a misnomer unless I miss my guess.   It's production in the sense that you can publish to the app store to earn revenue, but it's really another form of development.

 I could be wrong through...they may have tossed in production rights.

Jim.
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Jim Dettman (Microsoft MVP/ EE MVE)President / OwnerCommented:
OK, did a little digging, and according to this:

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/hh297076.aspx

You are allowed production rights, but only to an extent:

ADDITIONAL LICENSE TERMS FOR OFFICE PROFESSIONAL PLUS 2013

    Office Professional Plus 2013. For each license of Visual Studio Enterprise with MSDN that you acquire, the licensed user may also install and use one copy of Office Pro Plus 2013 on one device for production use. These rights are in addition to the rights that come with the desktop program that is governed by the Office Professional Plus 2013 agreement you accept when installing the Office Profession Plus software.

The restriction comes in when running on Azure:


Despite the rights granted above, you, the licensed user may not run Office Professional Plus or System Center Virtual Machine Manager in a production use environment and may not run Window Server or Windows client software for any use on Microsoft Azure.


 So basically it boils down to what you said; a very expensive way of using Office 2013.

Jim.
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Scott McDaniel (Microsoft Access MVP - EE MVE )Infotrakker SoftwareCommented:
Right - I asked about this way back when I got my first MSDN subscription, and that's basically what I was told (minus the App Store stuff, of course, since it wasn't around then) - you can use a single copy on a single machine for Production use, for each MSDN license you own.
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