Ideal Hours vs. Story Points for Agile Estimates

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There is a never ending battle between those who insist on estimating in story points and business people who say "how many man hours will that be?"

I have also never been involved in an Agile project that does any validating of how accurate the prior estimates were. But Ideal Days could easily be validated by the business.

I am considering Ideal Hours. Day are too large, ideal or not.

How about Ideal Fibonacci Hours?

I'd like to hear what things others have tried, but an leaning away from points...

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I am a huge advocate for pointing with fibonacci numbers.

Fibonacci Hours is an interesting idea. I could see it being challenging to convert or understand large items (+144), but suppose this would be overcome eventually with practice as your teams get familiar with the system.
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Fibonacci "Ideal" Hours.

I think this would bridge the gap between developers and the business, which needs to always resolve to headcount.

I suppose, a solution to estimate vary large tasks is to break it up into smaller tasks, for example 13 or 20 points being the max.

I even consider making distinct tasks for testing and developing, in some cases. Each of the two tasks would be handled by different developers. I think this would encourage pair programming as needed, and make the tester more objective than developers can sometimes be with their own code.

I read criticisms of Ideal Days versus the abstraction of Story Points. But personally, I have never been on a project that tried to validate the accuracy of the Story Point estimates. While a Fibonacci Ideal Hours method, the comparison would be easy and implicit.

Thoughts?
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