samsung phone too less memory

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My samsung SGH-T599N phone memory is too less to add additional apps apart from facebook , twiteer, watsapp.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_exhibit_t599-5468.php


i wonder if i take
Samsung Galaxy Core Prime
https://www.metropcs.com/phones/details/samsung-galaxy-core-prime/610214641274.html?cid=ps|GOOGLE|CAPT_PS_B_Samsung+Galaxy+Core+Prime-(E)|Samsung+Galaxy+Core+Prime|samsung+core+prime+metropcs&002=2215272&004=9985226261&005=115622628083&006=45415316861&007=Search&008=&025=c&026=?p&&&gclid=Cj0KEQiAqK-zBRC2zaXc8MOiwfIBEiQAXPHrXsLB31MWB2XKl_Eaa12TIe8Yy2MCnRpB4jlbIToh8eoaAt7P8P8HAQ

will it give additional memory to download more apps and also to insert 128 gb mini micro sd card instead of 2gb mini micro sd card?


are there are any other smart phones which are cheap and best with vvery good specification around 100 $ which i can switch to any carrier like lyca, metro pcs etc non contractr carriers
what is difference between 4gb ROM and 8 GB ROM and Android OS, v4.1.2 (Jelly Bean)

please advise
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If you want to stick with Samsung, you will not find one with your budget which will satisfy your needs.

For a usable Android smartphone, you will need at least 16GB of storage, 2GB RAM.

8GB of storage can do if the Android OS is 4.4.3 or above as you can set the external micro SD card as the primary storage so that some apps can be stored in the micro SD card. However, not all apps can be installed this way. In short, you can reduce the usage of the internal storage by 20%.

http://teckfront.com/use-external-sd-card-primary-storage-android-4-4-3-phone/

Regarding your concern of Android 4.1.2, I do not recommend you to buy any smartphone with Android 4.1.2 as it is an rather old OS.
Jackie Man IT Manager
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Alcatel OneTouch Fierce XL is OK with your needs if you are using 4G.

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/carriers/MetroPCS
http://www.cnet.com/products/alcatel-onetouch-fierce-xl/

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For a usable Android smartphone, you will need at least 16GB of storage, 2GB RAM.

8GB of storage can do if the Android OS is 4.4.3 or above as you can set the external micro SD card as the primary storage so that some apps can be stored in the micro SD card
i do not have good experience with phone from different companies. I wonder which samsung or other reputed company phoe i can buy to meet above specification? And how much it cost to me?
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can i upgrade my mobile OS  from  v4.1.2 (Jelly Bean)
 to whatever is latest for free? if yes how can i do it? please advise
Jackie Man IT Manager
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CM11 is the latest ROM you can try at your own risk. It is not official ROM from Samsung and is an equivalent version of Android 4.4.4.

http://androidforums.com/threads/rom-cm11-4-4-4-for-exhibit-t599x.840845/

The official ROM from Samsung is only up to 4.1.2.

As usual, unless your phone is of no practical use and is out of warranty, you can try it. If it is your only phone, avoid to flash the ROM and I am not responsible for any damage to your phone.
Jackie Man IT Manager
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i do not have good experience with phone from different companies. I wonder which samsung or other reputed company phoe i can buy to meet above specification? And how much it cost to me?

It is difficult to judge which phone is better. My concept is only a basic requirements and you can lower the requirement for internal storage to 8gb.

The only factors for choosing a smartphone are from your practical usage of a smartphone, i.e. whether your smartphone suits your needs.

Tell me what you want to use. I am currently using my new LENOVO A7000 to type this comment. My needs are large screen, not too heavy and good sound to play music and video.

What are your needs? It will change the brand and model you will buy.

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It is difficult to judge which phone is better. My concept is only a basic requirements and you can lower the requirement for internal storage to 8gb.

i am fine as long as i can put 128gb mini micro sd card to load lot of videos to watch i am fine.

The only factors for choosing a smartphone are from your practical usage of a smartphone, i.e. whether your smartphone suits your needs.

should support lot of apps and also should be able to attend online meetings like webex etc on the phone.


i checked blue (i never used it but reviews seems good) but it is around 150
http://www.amazon.com/BLU-Life-One-Smartphone-Unlocked/dp/B0189RMNTG/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1450036691&sr=8-10&keywords=2gb+ram+phone+samsung

my needs are

latest androind if possible and dependable phone which does not freeze on my. I use lot of gps and also streaming videos from youtube etc
Jackie Man IT Manager
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Is webex the deal breaker for your new purchase?

If yes, you need to stick with the ones below.

"The following have been tested and optimized for WebEx 2-way video:
•      Cisco DX-650, DX-70, DX-80
•      Google Nexus 4", 5", 7”, 10"
•      Amazon Kindle Fire (Android 4.x) and Fire HD 7”, 8.9"
•      Dell Streak 10 Pro
•      Fujitsu Arrows Tab
•      Samsung Galaxy S5, S4, S3, 7.7", 8.9”, 10.1"
•      Samsung Galaxy Tab S2, NotePro 12.2” and TabPro 10.1”, 12.2”
•      Samsung Note 2, 3, 4, 5, 8
•      Samsung GT-N8000
•      Sony Xperia Tablet Z2, Z3 Compact, S 9.4"
•      Motorola Razr XT928
•      HTC One X"

Source: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cisco.webex.meetings

Besides, is 128gb microsd card important and you want to make use of all space in microsd card to install apps? if yes, you need to have one which will up-gradable to android M (i.e. 6.0). So, Moto X (2014) will be a good choice.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/05/28/android-m-feature-spotlight-external-storage-can-be-adopted-as-true-internal-storage-or-accessed-normally-with-no-additional-apps/

http://thedroidguy.com/2015/10/android-6-0-marshmallow-certified-for-the-moto-x-2014-1050184

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any of these phones around 100-200$ budget?

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i like samsung note where i can draw using pensil and send picture or notes across to some one or store it in phone

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ASUS ZenFone 2 Laser Unlocked Smartphone, 3GB RAM, 32GB Storage  
$199.00

i see abouve in amazone not sure if it meets my requirement or not?
Jackie Man IT Manager
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ASUS ZenFone 2 Laser Unlocked Smartphone, 3GB RAM, 32GB Storage  
$199.00

i see abouve in amazone not sure if it meets my requirement or not?

Yes, but it is not the best price.

like samsung note where i can draw using pensil and send picture or notes across to some one or store it in phone

Samsung note needs a dedicated stylus, not a pencil to draw. If you want to use a pencil, you need to look for Sony Xperia Z1 or Z2.

any of these phones around 100-200$ budget?

Not all of those phones are the current selling models. If you are comfortable with used one, you can find one within your budget for sure.

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what is maximum RAM size available in market 4 GB also there?
Jackie Man IT Manager
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what is maximum RAM size available in market 4 GB also there?

Yes, but there are not within your budget, around $250 to $300.

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can you suggest good models on 4gb as well.

if i stretch 100-200 then i can stretch 100 more and get 4GB as well?
Jackie Man IT Manager
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Do you mean your budget increased to US$300?

If yes, you have two choices if you want to have 4gb RAM and 64gb internal storage, LENOVO K80 and ASUS Zenfone 2.

Recently, RMB has dropped and you can get better price from taobao.

LENOVO K80
http://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?spm=a1z5f.7632060.0.0&id=523945959711

ASUS Zenfone 2
http://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?spm=a1z5f.7632060.0.0&id=520042156339

You can buy flagship models from, Google, Samsung, LG and SONY if you have budget of US$600.

My LENOVO A7000 is less than US$100 but it only has 2gb RAM and 8gb internal storage, but I have no problem with it as I do not play games on my phone.
Jackie Man IT Manager
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After answering your questions, I do have a question for you.

Why do you need to chase for the highest spec? Your needs are not very demanding and the basic requirement is sufficient.

Actually, Android smartphone is rather cheap to produce in China and getting a higher spec will only give more profit to the producers and the performance gain is marginal unless your tasks are demanding in nature, like playing online games with very nice graphics, editing videos , output your screen to a big monitor and do multi tasking on your phone.

Finally, we change smartphone in one year or so, and our greater concern is on the resale value of old phones. Only second hand phones of Samsung and Apple can demand a higher price in second hand market as people will tend to chase for the market leaders for consumer electronics.

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my current phone is
samsung sgh t599n specification

its current specifications are
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_exhibit_t599-5468.php

only 4gb internal memory and ram Internal      4 GB, 1 GB RAM

i just have facebook, twitter, watsup and one other MX Video player that is it.

It has all other default app that come with Metro PCS and Google etc. when i am trying to put additional WAZE app  for GPS my phone almost froze then i have to quit waze.

I have Internal      4 GB, 1 GB RAM then i put 32gb of external mini micro sd card with lot of videos on it. I still do not understand why i cannot have more than 4-5 applications which are as small as 50-100mb. please advise

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those links i cannot read as they are in chinese. can you please send english links>

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Actually, Android smartphone is rather cheap to produce in China and getting a higher spec will only give more profit to the producers and the performance gain is marginal unless your tasks are demanding in nature, like playing online games with very nice graphics, editing videos , output your screen to a big monitor and do multi tasking on your phone.

Finally, we change smartphone in one year or so, and our greater concern is on the resale value of old phones. Only second hand phones of Samsung and Apple can demand a higher price in second hand market as people will tend to chase for the market leaders for consumer electronics.

right . My requirement is pretty basic not that demanding. but my current phone some how not scaling up for basic requirements at times when i try to install any other additional Aplication. Is there is a way i can install app in mini micro sd card rather than phone internal memory which is only 4gb?

i wonder where i can sell my current samsung phone it generate around 50$ i will be happy which i can invest in next phone?
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... Internal 4 GB, 1 GB RAM then i put 32gb of external mini micro sd card with lot of videos on it. I still do not understand why i cannot have more than 4-5 applications which are as small as 50-100mb. please advise

4GB is not the total space to install app, raw hardware 1.3 GB internal storage, available to user. Besides, each apps installed will occupy space for user data in the internal storage.

For an Android smartphone with internal storage of 16gb, normally there will be only 11gb available to the user.

Finally, if your free space within internal storage is less than 500mb, your phone will be sluggish when you run any app.
Jackie Man IT Manager
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those links i cannot read as they are in chinese. can you please send english links>

You can open the links in Firefox with lingo add-on to do the translation.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/tag/lingo

Just for your info about the price and spec in the biggest online market platform, taobao.com
Jackie Man IT Manager
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right . My requirement is pretty basic not that demanding. but my current phone some how not scaling up for basic requirements at times when i try to install any other additional Aplication. Is there is a way i can install app in mini micro sd card rather than phone internal memory which is only 4gb? No, your Android OS is a bit outdated which does not support app2sd.

You do not need 4gb RAM unless you want to run a very big app like online game. From your previous comment, you say that most of your apps installed are pretty small, 4-5 applications which are as small as 50-100mb. Just do a calculation, if you run 5 such apps at the same time, you will consume less than 0.6gb RAM, you do not need 4gb.

i wonder where i can sell my current samsung phone it generate around 50$ i will be happy which i can invest in next phone?
I do not think you can get $50 for such an old model.

For your information, my Samsung S5 can only be sold at around $150 and the original price is about $500. You need to locate your locale source of black market which imports old phones in Africa where technology is still very outdated.

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Finally, if your free space within internal storage is less than 500mb, your phone will be sluggish when you run any app.

i see the point now clearly. I will check that site later at home and post.

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64gb internal memory and 4gb RAM is maximun in market right now?

Are there 128gb or 256 gb internal memory as well. I know i am becoming more and more desireful now?
Jackie Man IT Manager
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Not suggest the one below unless you are OK with 3G network and SCDMA is only used in China or India.

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-Zenfone-Ze551ml-Unlocked-Factory/dp/B00VTTAZRY#featureBulletsAndDetailBullets_secondary_view_div_1450377486182

The other links are OK but they are pretty expensive.

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you are OK with 3G network and SCDMA

i am not ok.

I live in usa.
i saw this not sure price and where to buy similar phones?
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/153424/asus-zenfone-2-deluxe-special-edition-with-massive-256gb-internal-storage-announced.html
Jackie Man IT Manager
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64gb internal memory and 4gb RAM is maximun in market right now?

It depends on which country / market. For example, in South Korea, Samsung note 5 is available and its spec is 128gb internal storage, 4gb RAM.

Are there 128gb or 256 gb internal memory as well. I know i am becoming more and more desireful now?

No, it would be too expensive to buy one at such spec and is not worth for the extra cost. If your need is not urgent, just wait for an entry level phone which is bundled with MicroSD card slot and Android M (6.0). From Android 6.0 or above, you can use MicroSD card to be seen and used as internal storage by the OS.
Jackie Man IT Manager
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i saw this not sure price and where to buy similar phones?
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/153424/asus-zenfone-2-deluxe-special-edition-with-massive-256gb-internal-storage-announced.html

Only in news, and not available in any market. Just a marketing show-off and it will not be pushed to the market.
Jackie Man IT Manager
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Actually, I think that you should have enough knowledge to decide your next smartphone. Just wait and do try before you buy.

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i agree

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just wait for an entry level phone which is bundled with MicroSD card slot and Android M (6.0). From Android 6.0 or above, you can use MicroSD card to be seen and used as internal storage by the OS.

i wonder when android 6 is coming? any idea?

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also i cannot upgrade my phone androind 4.1.2 to android 5 like my windows laptop i recently upgraded from windows 7 to windows10?
Jackie Man IT Manager
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android 6 is coming? any idea?

Android 6 has come already, but it takes time for entry level phone to adopt it.

also i cannot upgrade my phone androind 4.1.2 to android 5 like my windows laptop i recently upgraded from windows 7 to windows10?

Sadly, it is a NO as SAMSUNG will not spend money and manpower to rewritten the ROM for an entry level phone which has no value for them. Instead, they will spend money and manpower to upgrade the ROM for their flagship models, like Note 5 and S6.

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