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Windows 10 Upgrade doesn't see the hardware changes.
I have been migrating the Win 7 64 bit machines over to Win 10, to date, without serious incidents.
I have two machines where the video card is not supported in Win 10.
I changed the video card to a compatible one, but the readiness tool doesn't find it.
I ran the command:
schtasks.exe /Run /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Applic ation Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser"
and it returns: SUCCESS: Attempted to run the scheduled task "\Microsoft\Windows\Applic ation Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser".
The Upgrade app still doesn't pick up the change. Still shows the tool hasn't run since December.
What am I missing here?
I have two machines where the video card is not supported in Win 10.
I changed the video card to a compatible one, but the readiness tool doesn't find it.
I ran the command:
schtasks.exe /Run /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Applic
and it returns: SUCCESS: Attempted to run the scheduled task "\Microsoft\Windows\Applic
The Upgrade app still doesn't pick up the change. Still shows the tool hasn't run since December.
What am I missing here?
Have you installed the driver for the new card?
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Yes.
Which one, the official manufacturer's driver or the one you get through Windows updates?
Besides that, why don't you just run the upgrade by downloading the Windows 10 iso, extracting it to a folder on the PC, and running the setup.exe file? That usually works without problems.
Besides that, why don't you just run the upgrade by downloading the Windows 10 iso, extracting it to a folder on the PC, and running the setup.exe file? That usually works without problems.
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I let windows select driver figuring it didn't matter so much since it was just to get to Win 10 that would add the proper driver anyway.
"Besides that, why don't you just run the upgrade by downloading the Windows 10 iso, extracting it to a folder on the PC"
I have tried that on other machines, and that always stalls on the "checking for updates screen" while downloading the application installer. The installer through Windows Update has worked very well to date.
Check the last run date on the installer/downloader. I believe that's the problem, I just don't know a way around it.
"Besides that, why don't you just run the upgrade by downloading the Windows 10 iso, extracting it to a folder on the PC"
I have tried that on other machines, and that always stalls on the "checking for updates screen" while downloading the application installer. The installer through Windows Update has worked very well to date.
Check the last run date on the installer/downloader. I believe that's the problem, I just don't know a way around it.
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Also, you may want to turn on "Show hidden devices" in the Device Manager and then remove it if it is listed.
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Working on this...standby...
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I did everything that MASQ said to do, and that cleaned up Windows update nicely.
Just two updates in there, one for .NET, one for NVIDIA.
Ran the same command to run the tool now, nothing.
Still shows last run date of December, still sees the old card.
Adam, it shows nothing under hidden devices in regards the display adapters.
I repeated what MASQ suggested again, and ran a reboot cycle.
And...nothing has changed.
Just two updates in there, one for .NET, one for NVIDIA.
Ran the same command to run the tool now, nothing.
Still shows last run date of December, still sees the old card.
Adam, it shows nothing under hidden devices in regards the display adapters.
I repeated what MASQ suggested again, and ran a reboot cycle.
And...nothing has changed.
Is this a discreet card or is the FX1500 integrated into the motherboard? If the latter it'll still be picked up as the first GPU by the system checker.
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So now, that begs the question, if I must install from media, does that do a "clean" install as in a drive wipe and install, or can I still install in place and maintain user settings and domain credentials et al?
If you run the Setup.exe from the Media Creation Tool DVD/USB from within your current Windows install it will retain your settings and or data depending on your choices during the upgrade.
I was taking you a different route as you commented earlier that you didn't want to do this (although rindi's suggestion would have been my first choice too).
I was taking you a different route as you commented earlier that you didn't want to do this (although rindi's suggestion would have been my first choice too).
Oops, rindi did recommend that already. I would go that route.
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To be clear, the upgrade in place can't be done from bootable media?
Agree. Don't care for the advisor, download the ISO, start setup from it.
You can run the full installer right within the OS from the ISO file. If you boot to the media I believe you only get the clean install option. I believe the upgrade option needs to be done from the full OS due to the way it licenses it.
Not due to the way it licenses it, but true anyway, not possible from bootable media. Start setup after doubleclick-mounting the ISO.
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I guess I will give that a try tomorrow.
I did three upgrades yesterday from the WU prompt, no problem.
Today, this one and three others failed completely.
This machine with the video card issue was the only one that had a red mark against upgrade.
The other three just sat and spun on the starting download screen. 2 workstations and a notebook.
I NEVER had that problem before.
Usually, it starts the download, reverts to the WU GUI, downloads the files, asks for a EULA, and then reboots to configure the upgrade. I never got past the "Starting Download" screen today on any of them.
Now, I wonder if something is funny on the MS servers at current.
I hate not knowing what to do, and I hate that what worked fine yesterday is broken today.
I did three upgrades yesterday from the WU prompt, no problem.
Today, this one and three others failed completely.
This machine with the video card issue was the only one that had a red mark against upgrade.
The other three just sat and spun on the starting download screen. 2 workstations and a notebook.
I NEVER had that problem before.
Usually, it starts the download, reverts to the WU GUI, downloads the files, asks for a EULA, and then reboots to configure the upgrade. I never got past the "Starting Download" screen today on any of them.
Now, I wonder if something is funny on the MS servers at current.
I hate not knowing what to do, and I hate that what worked fine yesterday is broken today.
Don't worry about computer (non-)logic, laugh about it, at least if you have an alternative - and you have. From now on, only use the ISO, it saves a lot of time.
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At a course years ago, the trainer said, "And when were done here, we will go out for a drink! We work in IT. We ALL drink!"
Well, there I days that I believe that to be a universal constant, especially on the development end. ON the job.
So after yesterday's frustration, and one Clown Shoes Barleywine Ale later...
....and WHAT do I come into this morning?
Well, there I days that I believe that to be a universal constant, especially on the development end. ON the job.
So after yesterday's frustration, and one Clown Shoes Barleywine Ale later...
....and WHAT do I come into this morning?
Where did you pour the barley wine in? :)
I missed that you need to cold reboot after flushing the update cache, a warm restart apparently doesn't cut it & the GWX scheduler does seem to have a mind of its own abut when it reflects the changes!
I missed that you need to cold reboot after flushing the update cache, a warm restart apparently doesn't cut it & the GWX scheduler does seem to have a mind of its own abut when it reflects the changes!
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Straight out of the growler!
I did do the cold reboot after all the command line work, and still nothing until this morning.
In re the ISO file, I've always just burned those to a CD or DVD.
I'm not clear on people saying to "just use the ISO file" for installation.
I am creating it now. Forgive my ignorance, but then what do I do with it?
Extract it and run the setup file?
I did do the cold reboot after all the command line work, and still nothing until this morning.
In re the ISO file, I've always just burned those to a CD or DVD.
I'm not clear on people saying to "just use the ISO file" for installation.
I am creating it now. Forgive my ignorance, but then what do I do with it?
Extract it and run the setup file?
As mentioned: double click the ISO (with default settings, windows will mount it on Win8.x and win10). A drive letter will be assigned and explorer will automatically open that drive and we can start setup.
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Win 7 here. 64 bit Pro.
It just prompts me to burn a disc.
It just prompts me to burn a disc.
^^ as above - the important bit is you run it ("Setup.exe") within your current Windows install then it will act as an upgrade. If you boot to it it will try to fresh install.
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Any burning software should have a burn disc from image option that will take the .iso and put it onto a DVD
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Yes, on any machine you like.
It'll work fine for your upgrade needs but depending on how you extracted it it may not be bootable (for repairs or fresh installs in the future).
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Here goes...
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Mission accomplished!
Thanks for all the suggestions and help. I learned quite bit from you all.
We have PC here that have XP Pro installed as build downs from Vista. I assume there will not be the ability to bring those up to Win 10 levels.
Again, thank you for a positive learning experience.
Thanks for all the suggestions and help. I learned quite bit from you all.
We have PC here that have XP Pro installed as build downs from Vista. I assume there will not be the ability to bring those up to Win 10 levels.
Again, thank you for a positive learning experience.
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Again, thank you.
Not for free. But installing Windows 10 should not be an issue provided the hardware is good enough (core2duo or similar should do fine).