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I wonder  word document print both sides of page of a word or power poinjt etc document.

I have printer of below model
 Canon mf624cw
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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The ability to print on both sides is a function of the printer and printer driver and not Word, Adobe, etc. All current software will print on two sides if the driver will allow it.

Check the properties of your driver for two sided. My HP OfficeJet printers do two-sided and have the attachment to pull the paper back in and print on the other side.
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The document feeder is simplex according to the specs. I cannot find that it does double sided printing, but if it does, the setting is printer driver properties.

http://www.canon.ca/inetCA/en/products/method/gp/pid/45115#_030
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The Canon Color imageCLASS MF624Cw is a simplex (one-sided) printer. You may see that in the Specifications here:
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/details/printers/color-laser/mf624cw/color%20imageclass-mf624cw#technicalspecifications_tab

So without hardware duplex (two-sided) printing capability, the only way to achieve what you want is to print one side of all the pages (the odd numbers), then turn the paper over and put it back in the paper tray, then print the other side of all the pages (the even numbers). Word has specific support for this in the Settings section of its Print dialog:

Word manual duplex printing
Many other programs besides Word provide the ability to perform double-sided printing manually. For example, here's the print dialog from Adobe Acrobat, which lets you achieve it by specifying the odd or even pages:

Adobe Acrobat print odd-even pages
Regards, Joe

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Word has specific support for this in the Settings section of its Print dialog:

how to go here.
mine is word 2007
word1.png
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Your printer is one sided. Word 2007 may not do what you want since older. What you were shown was never word.

In any event, I was never happy trying to double side with a single sided printer.
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That was Word 2013. In Word 2007, do Office Button>Print>Print to bring up the Print dialog:

Word2007 print odd-even pages
I've had good results printing double-sided with simplex printers (also good results scanning double-sided with simplex scanners). Regards, Joe
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Word has a FORMAT for two sided printing. It will create extra space on the inside of the pages in the form of 'Mirror margins' and is only used if, as John Hurst says, your printer has duplex capabilities:Two sided printing

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What you were shown was never word.
it is microsoft word document named test.word

So without hardware duplex (two-sided) printing capability, the only way to achieve what you want is to print one side of all the pages (the odd numbers), then turn the paper over and put it back in the paper tray, then print the other side of all the pages (the even numbers). Word has specific support for this in the Settings section of its Print dialog:

cannot i do without manually turning myself?

i want to save lot of paper rather than wasting simply double amount of pages?

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what it means by
'All pages in range' option.

let me test.  I think that did not work last time which was default configuation  for me.

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as attached my test.word printed in 2 pages each single side instead of printing on same page both sides
test.docx
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cannot I do without manually turning myself?   <-- No, not on that printer.

You would have to print out odd pages, flip the stack over and print even. Any glitch causes a total failure whereas a glitch on a double sided printer only costs one or two pages.

If the issue is completely important to you, consider replacing the printer.
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As noted, I have done the above and it is fraught with mechanical glitches and errors.
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> As noted, I have done the above and it is fraught with mechanical glitches and errors.

My experience is the exact opposite. I have done it for years with few problems. Of course, I prefer a printer with duplexing hardware, but when only a simplex printer is available and I want to save paper, I've had few glitches/errors with the technique of printing the odd pages, turning the stack over, and printing the even pages. Regards, Joe

P.S. Duplex printers aren't perfect, either — I've had some "mechanical glitches and errors" with them.
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I gave up simple printers a decade ago because of issues. Yes, I can make it work, but it has always been a big pain in the butt.
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I hear you...making two passes to print double-sided is a pain, but if you're keen on saving paper and already have a simplex printer (and don't want, or can't afford, to buy a duplex one), it's a reasonable way to go, imo.

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let me experiment. Not sure how much is cost of duplex decent printer
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My HP 8610 was under $200 and is less than 1 cent per page black ink.

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http://www.amazon.com/HP-OfficeJet-Wireless-Printing-A7F64A/dp/B00J9E68B8

i see it around 100 above.

How many cents my current printer per page?
how many pages my current printer prints before it runs out of ink?
not sure how much replacement cost of ink?
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That is what I have.

About a penny a page or a bit less for ink.
Original HP High Yield Black about $40 - 2300 pages.
Regular cartridges about 700 pages.

It is a high quality printer that is easy on ink. Cheap printers are the reverse.

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i still need to test even odd method which i guess i have to for some time
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Sounds good. Let us know if you need help with the odd–even method.

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(3) Take the printed pages off the output tray, turn them over (or not, depending on your printer — experiment), put them in the input paper tray.

(4) Click the Options button, click the Advanced tab, go to the Print section, tick the box that says, "Print pages in reverse order":

step 3 you mean upside down?

step 4 i am hesitant to do which may change settings..
i just want double side only if number of pages more than say 10 ?

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as attached i printed odd page which printed
page1 and page 3 on speapare shets

i simply rotated and kept on paper tra so that empty page faces me and (letters at top only on back side)
PrinterTEst.docx

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i gave even numbers as print from word document now.

problem i faced now is behind page 1 it printed page 4

behind page 3 it printed page 2 which is not i wanted


i wanted behind page 1 page2
and
behind page 3 page 4

please advise
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> step 3 you mean upside down?

It depends on the printer. As I said in that step, you should experiment to figure it out. Put an X at the top of a piece of paper with a pen and then see which side the printer prints on and which edge it prints as the top — printers are different. Once you've figured out which side of the paper your printer prints on and which edge it considers to be the top, feed them in accordingly to print the second side.

> i just want double side only if number of pages more than say 10

That's fine. Tick the box only when you want duplex. It's a few mouse clicks.
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Our messages crossed. While I was writing mine you posted the other two. I'll look at them now.

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(4) Click the Options button, click the Advanced tab, go to the Print section, tick the box that says, "Print pages in reverse order":

which Options button. I do not see in when i got to Print from Word 20007 document?
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> page1 and page 3 on speapare shets

That's good.

> i simply rotated and kept on paper tra so that empty page faces me and (letters at top only on back side)

As I said, how you need to feed it in depends on your printer. But don't change the order.

> problem i faced now is behind page 1 it printed page 4

That's because you didn't tick the "Print pages in reverse order" box. Do that and it will work.
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> which Options button. I do not see in when i got to Print from Word 20007 document?

It's not when you print. Click the Office button — the circle in the upper left. You'll see at the bottom a Word Options button:

Word2007 options
Click that, then the Advanced tab, and go to the Print section.

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Click the Options button, click the Advanced tab, go to the Print section, tick the box that says, "Print pages in reverse order":


how to go top Options button and Advanced Tab? please advise

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what does reverse order option do?
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Click this in the upper left:

Office button
Then click this in the lower right:

Word2007 options
Then click this in the left panel:

Word2007 advanced
Then scroll down to here:

word2007 print options
That's it.
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> what does reverse order option do?

It will print page 2 behind page 1 instead of printing page 4 behind 1 (and so on for all pages).

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i tested did not working after making reverse order still printing 4 behind 1 and 3 behind 2
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I don't know what to say. It works perfectly here. Do not change the order when you take them off the output tray and put them in the input tray.

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i ticked but not saved
i saved closed word and reopened it
let me see now

when i printed odd pages it printed page 3 and page1

on my printer surface i see page 1 (white page facing me and underneath page1 content) below that page 3(content underneath)

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not working

still 1 behind 4 and 2 behind 3

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i am placing back the papers same way into my printer however they are printed out for me?

do i need to take out each page and flip them over all of them?
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The post is now a month old and measured in dollars, it has cost more than a decent double-sided printer.
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Let's perform a thought experiment on a 4-page doc. When you print just the odd pages in the normal order and take the stack off the printer, you have page 1 and page 3 in that order.

If your printer prints on the side facing down, you need to put the stack in the printer with the printed odd-page sides facing up. The first page drawn in will be page 1, so you need it to print page 2, meaning you need to print the even pages in normal order.

If your printer prints on the side facing up, you need to turn the stack over and put it in the printer with the printed odd-page sides facing down. The first page drawn in will be page 3, so you need it to print page 4, meaning you need to print the even pages in reverse order.

One of those two methods has got to work!

Update: In an earlier comment you said that you do not see the Options button when you go to print from Word 2007. I said that it's not when you print — that you should click the Office button (the circle in the upper left). Well, it turns out that you can get to the Options buttons when you print. Here's what the Word 2007 print dialog looks like:

Word2007 print dialog
Note the Options button in the lower left. Clicking that brings you to the same Word Options dialog that I documented in previous posts, where you can get to the "Print pages in reverse order" option. As mentioned above in the thought experiment, you will need that feature only if your printer prints on the side facing up. Regards, Joe

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how to ensure 'reverse' option is working or not?

i will try above experiment also.
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> how to ensure 'reverse' option is working or not?

Print a two-page doc without the Reverse option. It should print page 1 followed by page 2. Then print it with the Reverse option. It should print page 2 followed by page 1.

> i will try above experiment also.

Yes, please. One way or the other, depending on your printer, that is guaranteed to work.

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> how to ensure 'reverse' option is working or not?

Print a two-page doc without the Reverse option. It should print page 1 followed by page 2. Then print it with the Reverse option. It should print page 2 followed by page 1.

i will try





> i will try above experiment also.

Yes, please. One way or the other, depending on your printer, that is guaranteed to work.


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i hope so
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> i hope so

You don't need to hope. It absolutely has to work, one way or the other. Period. End of story. Just figure out if your printer prints on the side facing up or facing down and follow the instructions accordingly.

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with reverse order check box when i print ayttached i got
page 2 at bottom on top of that page 1 (boyth facing down so that i can see on my printer i see only blank surface of paper)

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with removed reverse order check box when i print ayttached i got
page 1 at bottom on top of that page 2(boyth facing down so that i can see on my printer i see only blank surface of paper)
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> with reverse order check box when i print ayttached i got
page 2 at bottom on top of that page 1 (boyth facing down so that i can see on my printer i see only blank surface of paper)

Yes, of course, with reverse order it prints page 2 first, then page 1 — so page 2 is on the bottom of the stack because it printed first.

> with removed reverse order check box when i print ayttached i got
page 1 at bottom on top of that page 2(boyth facing down so that i can see on my printer i see only blank surface of paper)

Yes, of course, without reverse order it prints page 1 first, then page 2 — so page 1 is on the bottom of the stack because it printed first.

That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Let me try to explain in another way. Put a big mark on a piece of paper with a pen. Put that piece of paper in the input tray with the big mark facing up. Now print print something. Did it print on the side where the big mark is? If so, your printer prints on the side facing up; if not, your printer prints on the side facing down. Now, follow the "side facing up" or "side facing down" instructions above.
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This thread is costing more in volunteer time than a printer. Please just purchase a proper printer and move forward.
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Hi gudii9,
A quick note to let you know that I'm going offline for about 10 hours. I'll check back into the thread to see how you're doing as soon as I'm back online. Regards, Joe

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Put a big mark on a piece of paper with a pen. Put that piece of paper in the input tray with the big mark facing up. Now print print something. Did it print on the side where the big mark is? If so, your printer prints on the side facing up;

i just testyed.

it printed on the side where the big mark is.

so my printer printing on the side facing up.

coming back to orignial question after pritining odd pages how to print even pages on the back in proper order meaning page 2 behind 1 and page 4 behind page 3? do i need to keep reverse order on or no need?

is it same settings for power point or pdf or different?

please advise
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no need to make reverse order change right?
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Try it both ways with 6 pages and see what works . There is only two ways to do it.

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i took 1,2, 3, 4 pages test document
i printed odd which gave page 1, 3 facing down
now i reversed and placed 1 on top below that 3 and giving even number print without reverse option.

i am hoping behing 1 it prints 2 and behind 3 it printes 4
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Please let us know after trying

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oops it printed page 2 on top of page 1
page 4 on top of page 2

How to resolve this issue?
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You print odd pages, turn over and reverse the order and print even. Or do not reverse the order and print even. Only two ways.

But a double sided printer just works better.
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Back online now.

> so my printer printing on the side facing up

Great! So go back to this earlier post of mine (which John so kindly repeated):
https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/28943810/how-to-print-both-sides-of-page.html#a41642485

It says, "If your printer prints on the side facing up, you need to turn the stack over and put it in the printer with the printed odd-page sides facing down. The first page drawn in will be page 3, so you need it to print page 4, meaning you need to print the even pages in reverse order."

Let me know if there is anything you don't understand in that paragraph and I'll try to help you through it. Regards, Joe

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one of these days i will buy double sided

You print odd pages, turn over and reverse the order and print even. Or do not reverse the order and print even. Only two ways.

which one is easy?

step1: print odd
step2: do not reverse order which saves one step and time everytime
step3:pring even

let me try above steps

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If your printer prints on the side facing up, you need to turn the stack over and put it in the printer with the printed odd-page sides facing down. The first page drawn in will be page 3, so you need it to print page 4, meaning you need to print the even pages in reverse order

let me follow above

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so basically i need to do below?

1. pritn odd
2.  turn stack over and put in printer with printef odd pages sides facing down page 1 bottom most then page 3 on top of it near to my face
3. go to ms word options advanced change to reverse order checkbox click
4. print
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If you need to reverse the order then the advance printing options will do it

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it seems worked i see 1 behind that 2 NS 3 BEHIND THAT 4
let me try again

so when i do again next time i have to remove reverse side setting right for odd to start over

then put back on reverse side setting for even numbers?
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That is about it.
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>so when i do again next time i have to remove reverse side setting right for odd to start over
then put back on reverse side setting for even numbers?

Yes. And you can do it in the Print dialog, as I mentioned in post https:#a41642485 earlier.

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it worked perfect. thanks for patiently walking through each step.
i will raise separate questions for powerpoint documents and pdf documents double sided printing
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I am glad you got it solved thanks to excellent posts by Joe and some added ones by me.
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> it worked perfect.

Happy to hear it!

> thanks for patiently walking through each step.

You're welcome.

> i will raise separate questions for powerpoint documents and pdf documents double sided printing

Being another Office 2007 module, PowerPoint 2007 is probably similar to Word 2007, but I haven't looked at it to be sure. PDF docs could be a different story, depending on what software you're using to print them.
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