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VMWare/esxi Dell version vs vanilla VMWare/esxi

Someone mentioned (Andrew I think) I should MAKE SURE since i have a dell server to get the dell VMWare and not the VMWare from the VMWare site.

I was asking sales people about this since the install image is on an sdcard in the server...

I'm not totally clear by what they are saying...

they said

Confirmed it is OEM on the server, image and licensing.  There is a vCenter plug in that incorporates the management interface of vCenter into OME (OpenManage Essentials, our free management platform).  The vCenter plugin however is an add on but not that costly.  We can provide a quote to process for the plug in if needed?

Andrew (or whoever it was)... is this what you were talking about?  Or were you talking about something different?  Looks like this will cost $500 more if we did it.

Also I am a little confused about what they mean by vcenter being in OpenManage essentials....  If it's just a matter of him merging of interfaces I'm not sure I care too much about having to go to two separate interfaces to do different things.  I won't be doing an incredible amount of administration on the server once it's all set up.

Also at this point I'm a little bit confused about vcenter versus V sphere.... Does the former replace the latter?  Or is it just another layer on top of it?
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Why you'd go for VMware OEM licensing from Dell
  • One throat to choke - you log a VMware support call via Dell
  • It's cheaper as the license is attached to the hardware. You have to buy a new license when you replace the server - like a  Windows Server license purchased with a server

Why you'd go for VMware licensing with VMware
  • You log any support calls with VMware, not your hardware vendor
  • The license is perpetual as long as you keep maintenance up. You don't have to buy a new license when you buy a new server- so arguably cheaper in the long run

Some vendor's VMware support is good, some is very ordinary indeed - YMMV. I've not used Dell's support in quite a few years, but the Enterprise support people are good and know their stuff so make sure you buy the top-level support.

Integration of vCenter into OpenManage is nice if you use OpenManage as your main environment monitoring and alerting solution. It gives you a one-screen view of your environment and one place to configure alerting and email relays. OpenManage is worth the effort to set up but it ain't easy to do properly. I'd recommend paying someone that's done it before to set it up for you.
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Your Dell server from Dell is likely to ship with the OEM Dell version.

see here what you should use it.

http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/b/techcenter/archive/2011/12/19/dell-s-customization-of-vmware-esxi-and-its-advantages

They are not referring to use they are referring to the Additional Management bits, which plugin to vCenter Server to allow you to manage your server better.

It allows you to perform management from a single pain of glass.

see my EE Article here

HOW TO: Use Dell OpenManage Server Administrator to Create and Manage a Virtual Disk (RAID Array) on a Dell PowerEdge Server with VMware vSphere 5.0, ESXi 5.0 installed.

Which shows standalone management using OpenManage, not integrated!

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Got it - thanks! ... So with my tight budget and single production server, and no plan to be doing a lot of admin (i.e. adding disks/VM's frequently, etc). I'm probably pretty safe to just not bother spending another $500.  I can still do everything I could do if I did spend the $500, I might just have to log into more different places to do it all?

And just to make sure I am clear...
ESXi is what goes on a machine and makes it a hypervisor...
vsphere client is a client that can connect to one ESXi at a time and manage it.  
vCenter is an application that you would run on a server, and that lets you manage groups of esxi hosts.  (sort of like, if you ever used acronis, the acronis management server).... How does one connect to vcenter?  with a vsphere client?  Or does vcenter have it's own client?
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Got it - thanks! ... So with my tight budget and single production server, and no plan to be doing a lot of admin (i.e. adding disks/VM's frequently, etc). I'm probably pretty safe to just not bother spending another $500.  I can still do everything I could do if I did spend the $500, I might just have to log into more different places to do it all?

If money is tight, that is correct from a Web Browser! rather than tight integration into vCenter Server. (even if you are doing to deploy vCenter Server!).

ESXi is what goes on a machine and makes it a hypervisor...

Correct. See here

HOW TO: Install and Configure VMware vSphere Hypervisor 6.0 (ESXi 6.0)

vsphere client is a client that can connect to one ESXi at a time and manage it.


Correct, See here

HOW TO: Connect to the VMware vSphere Hypervisor 6.0 (ESXi 6.0) using the vSphere Client (C# client)

It's also the same client which connects to vCenter Server.


vCenter is an application that you would run on a server, and that lets you manage groups of esxi hosts.  (sort of like, if you ever used acronis, the acronis management server)....

Correct. It's an application for Windows, called vCenter Server for Windows that you install on Windows Server, or it's a Ready to Go Appliance, you download, which is based on Centos Linux.

HOW TO: Deploy and Install the VMWARE vCenter Server Appliance 6.0 (VCSA 6.0)

HOW TO: Install and Configure VMware vSphere vCenter Server 6.0 for Windows

How does one connect to vcenter?  with a vsphere client?  Or does vcenter have it's own client?

Using the vSphere Client or Web Client with a Web Browser.

HOW TO: Connect to the VMware vSphere Hypervisor 6.0 (ESXi 6.0) using the vSphere Client (C# client)

HOW TO: Add VMware vSphere Hypervisor ESXi Hosts to VMware vSphere vCenter Server 6.0


You asked me a while ago, in a question how easy this all was, well it's simple if you READ.

If you don't read any articles, or try anything.... then......

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Thanks :-)  Sorry if I am annoying with all my questions already answered by your articles.... I work a full time job... this whole VMWare thing is my second/night job... and I have a 4 month hold baby in the house... time is in short supply right now, and it's easier just to ask my specific questions and get specific answers in the pre-planning period.   (Hey - atleast you get easy points ;-) ) ... Once I have server in hand and I can start working with it, I'm sure your step-by-step guys will be invaluable, and prevent a lot of questions.... ;-)
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For me it's not about points, I have enough!

If you don't read any articles, or try anything.... then......

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Well regardless of why you do it... I totally appreciate it!  I'm definitely a tinkerer (learn by doing/tinkering) by nature... if had the time and spare hardware laying around I'd love to be going through your guides and playing around with this stuff now.  

Anyway - since I don't and since my time is so tight, so greatly appreciate all the time you have taken to help answer my questions. :-)
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Time Management - two words - that's all I'm going to say. We all have time.

again, you would get a better appreciation if you read the articles.

If you cannot be bothered, your choice.

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I learn better by doing than reading... It's less efficient for me (personally) to read them up front than if I go through them when I have VMWare set up and can tinker... trust me ;-).... Also I have a 4 month old... The more time I spend preparing the less time I spend with her ;-)