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Hi,

I'm looking to buy a domain name but it is already purchased, but not in use (not even parked)... i just a 'site cannot be reached' message.

I've checked the whois, and it seems like the owner is private and it doesn't even list the domain register contact details.

Can anyone offer any advice on how i might be able to get in touch with the owner, it is it likely to be impossible to find out who owns it? Thank you in advance.
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I own (and keep current) an inactive domain name. Whois tells you who I am.  If the owner has kept the information secret and the site comes up not reachable, then you cannot buy it until the owner lets it go. This is normal practice.
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The owner has purchased whois privacy for a small additional annual charge (circa $5)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_privacy

Use the ICANN whois service and you will see an email address for the domain.
Send an email and ask for it to be forwarded on to the owner.

This email address could look something like this ....
thedomainyouwant.com@domainsbyproxy.com

(www.domainsbyproxy.com is a real website)
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Alternative is
Same site with a different extension
I.e. .net instead of .com

Or a slightly different spelling if that is an option
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Thanks guys.

This is the Organisation that is listed for the owner as the domain - protecteddomainservices.com
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Smart Whois gives you this information and you can contact them if you wish.


protecteddomainservices.com

50.19.229.247

Protected Domain Services
Protected Domain Services
191 University Blvd. , Unit 384
Denver
CO
80206-4613
United States
Phone: +1.4252740657
compliance@protecteddomainservices.com

Protected Domain Services
Protected Domain Services
191 University Blvd. , Unit 384
Denver
CO
80206-4613
United States
Phone: +1.4252740657
compliance@protecteddomainservices.com

Protected Domain Services
Protected Domain Services
191 University Blvd. , Unit 384
Denver
CO
80206-4613
United States
Phone: +1.4252740657
compliance@protecteddomainservices.com

ns1.protecteddomainservices.com
ns2.protecteddomainservices.com
ns3.protecteddomainservices.com
ns4.protecteddomainservices.com

Google Page Rank : 0
Alexa Traffic Rank : 9,961,399

Created: 2007-02-27T21:33:44Z
Updated: 2014-09-23T20:42:15Z
Expires: 2018-02-27T00:00:00Z
Source: whois.cirs.us
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When you look at the whois information for the domain, the 'private' email address acts as a forwarder.

So when you send an email to the obfuscated address (ie. example.com@protecteddomainservices.com) it actually forwards to the owner of the domain, without any extra effort on your part.

The only way this wouldn't work, is if the owner has let their contact information become outdated inside of the registrar's control panel.
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Ok great, thank you for your help on this.
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If you send an email expressing interest in acquiring the domain you will probably get a reply.
Don't express too huge a desire to own the domain or the price may grow too high.
Use a personal email address rather your business email address, to keep the potential cost down.

I strongly recommend that you use www.escrow.com to complete any transaction.
(Beware .... There are some dodgy escrow services out there)
There is something very strange with protecteddomainservices.com
I think protecteddomainservices themselves are using whois privacy rather than being a service provider.

Just be careful.
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Thanks Eirman.

I sent an email to the email listed on whois for protecteddomainservices and i received an open but no reply.

I don't think i'm going to get anywhere with the domain so i think i'll have to add a prefix the domain such as:

mydomain.com

All of the other suffix's are used too.

Thanks for your help.
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Sorry guys... one final question.

I'm trying to find the 'whois' on another domain name that is not in use, and not parked.

the domain suffix is .link and everytime i try use a 'whois' tool / site, it adds .com to the .link such as site.link.com

Is it possible to do a 'whois' lookup on a .link
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I went to http://www.whois.com/whois/
and entered security.link and I got the whois info
It should work for you

Make sure that you don't enter the www

EDIT: I also tried my preffered whois (ICANN - mentioned above) and it works fine.
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Can you try ps.link
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All I get is that ps.link does not exist, so it is not registered (and is perhaps too short to be allowed)
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According to this http://www.ez-domainnameregistration.com/domain_name_basics.htm
3 characters is the shortest.
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ab.com & xy.com exist so I'm puzzled

Rules must be different for .link - I tried a few and they simply don't exist.
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https://whois.eurid.eu/en/?domain=ps.eu

So a country can block a name!
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Ok cool, thanks for your help on this.

I guess i'm back to the drawing board.
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Uniregistry is who manages the .link domain extension.

When I use the Uniregistry commercial whois, they show the domain as being registered, but with no other details than an option to contact them directly:
ps.link registration options

When I whois ps.link from any other registry I receive the following message:
Domain Name: ps.link
The queried object does not exist: See below for more information
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2016-07-22T16:55:22.470Z > Uniregistry is unable to allow the registration of this domain name
>>> pursuant to its contract with the Internet Corporation for Assigned
>>> Names and Numbers.

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I suspect this is a domain reserved under their "Premium Program" which they use to specifically hold domains for use at a later date. This can be somewhat validated in seeing the other "ps" domains (shown below ps.link on the list above) are all listed as "Premium" with exorbitant price tags.  

We withheld from registration a limited number of quality registrations in each of our top-level domains for the registrants that will find us in the future, when awareness of new gTLDs has penetrated the registrant market more deeply. Some of these names we hope to place in the hands of pioneers who will use our domain names in novel and prominent ways. Most of these domains will be placed with people and companies that were not aware that new naming opportunities existed when we opened our servers for registration in 2014.

You can read more about Uniregistry at their Wikipedia page here. They basically control a bunch of newer top-level domain extensions and reserve all the best names for re-sell. Professional domain name squatting at its finest... and I say that with a great deal of respect.
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There was plenty of interaction with the author and useful suggestions were made.
Please don't delete. Just assign points as appropriate and close.
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