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This PC is unusable (it seems from disk bottleneck) for about 10-15 minutes after boot.  All I want to do is run chrome on it.  Ubuntu runs like crap on it.  Any suggestions as to what would be best and quickest way to make this laptop usable?
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by:dbrunton
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Get the UBCD http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html

Download the ISO, make the CD and boot from it and run the appropriate manufacturer's util on the CD (see here http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ for a list of what is on it) to test the hard disk.  See if the hard disk is the problem.  You can also test the memory as well.
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by:Rob Hutchinson
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To make the biggest boost in performance, is swap out the 500G sata drive for a 500G SSD
Check with Toshiba first to make sure the SSD will run in that laptop too.
satellite_A505-S6005.pdf
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that can have a number of reasons - even virus/ malware ; did you scan it yet?

here is how to use the ubcd :
Hardware diagnostic CD    UBCD
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go to the download page, scroll down to the mirror section, and  click on a mirror to start the download
Download the UBCD and make the cd   <<==on a WORKING PC, and boot the problem PC from it
Here 2 links, one to the general site, and a direct link to the download

since the downloaded file is an ISO file, eg ubcd527.iso - so you need to use an ISO burning tool
if you don't have that software, install cdburnerXP : http://cdburnerxp.se/

If you want also the Ram tested - run memtest86+ at least 1 full pass,  - you should have NO errors!
 
For disk Diagnostics run the disk diag for your disk brand (eg seagate diag for seagate drive)  from the HDD section -  long or advanced diag !  (runs at least for30 minutes)

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/      

**  you can make a bootable cd - or bootable usb stick
*** note *** for SSD drives  use the tool from the manufacturer, like intel 's toolbox :
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/18455/Intel-Solid-State-Drive-Toolbox

for completeness -here's how i handle disk problems : http://www.experts-exchange.com/Storage/Hard_Drives/A_3000-The-bad-hard-disk-problem.html
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by:Rob Hutchinson
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Curious, I went back to the Toshiba website, and found this link:
http://us.toshiba.com/computers/storage-finder?series=ssd-drives

480G for $190
toshibacomssd-drive.pdf
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by:Xetroximyn
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FYI - Virus is not the issue... it's been reinstalled... I guess I might just take my  SSD from my old desktop and put it in here.... Best suggetions for getting win7 installed on here with the OEM key and ALL?   can I use generic win7 install disc?
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by:Gerald Connolly
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I used to have that problem with my laptop under Windows (Was Win 8.1 at time, now Win10)
I migrated my system disk to a SSD and the problem went away.
Yes its still very busy, but the extra IOPS available from the SSD means that there is no slowdown for that initial 10-15 minutes

I am using a Samsung 850Pro 256GB
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by:Dave Baldwin
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It looks like your computer may have a restore partition on it.  That would be the 'best' way to reinstall Win 7 and shouldn't require a key.  ??  It will require you to do a lot of updates.
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by:David Johnson, CD, MVP
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clone the disk, from the spinning rust to the ssd, many SSD manufacturers give you this utility. or boot from clonezilla and do it there
http://clonezilla.org/
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by:rindi
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Most Toshiba laptops I have seen came with recovery CD's/DVD's and didn't have a recovery partition.

You should still check whether there isn't a factory restore partition on the PC. If there is, there must also be a utility included by Toshiba which you can use to create your own set of recovery DVD's. So do that first.

If there is no such partition, order the recovery media from toshiba.

You could also do the Windows 10 upgrade by downloading the Windows 10 iso from m$.

Burn the iso to DVD or use WinSetupFromUSB to create a bootable USB stick from the iso:

https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows10ISO?wa=wsignin1.0

http://www.winsetupfromusb.com/

After that insert the stick or DVD into your PC and start the setup.exe file you'll find on there.

Once Windows 7 has been upgraded, and you have an internet connection, it will get registered and automatically activated with the m$ servers.

Now you can change the HD to another one, boot your PC from the DVD or USB stick with Windows 10, and do a fresh installation. You won't need the key and re-activation will be automatic.

Besides that, rather than Ubuntu, use MakuluLinux LinDoz, it performs a lot better than Ubuntu, and if I'm not mistaken it already includes chrome.

http://makululinux.com/download-2/
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by:Jackie Man
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Please give the exact hardware spec if your laptop, i.e. CPU, RAM, HDD, GPU before I can make you a recommendation.
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by:Xetroximyn
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A505-6005 is a preceise model number with exact specs I beleive.
http://www.cnet.com/products/toshiba-satellite-a505-s6005/specs/

(Except Im sure I upgraded the RAM to 8GB)

I bought a desktop once and tried to replace the System drive with an SSD.... used all manner of cloning software, including paid stuff and had all sorts of troubles.   I will probably never try to clone again.  Either way - I'd prefer fresh Win7 install... that's going to be faster than a year's old one.

And since I don't want to clone I want to install from disc, not recovery partition.

Can I not just use a generic install disc?  Isn't the OEM tied to hardware, not install disc you use?
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by:Jackie Man
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Generic win 7 setup DVD will not help you to get pass the activation as it is OEM licence and you need to have OEM setup media for TOSHIBA.

OEM setup media will detect the SLIC cert in the BIOS and no activation will be needed.

My routine for changing HDD to SSD is use and start the PC with win 7 factory recovery DVD and start to do a factory recovery to SSD.

There are two ways to obtain factory restore DVD. First way is to order direct from manufacturer (brand).

The other way is use the brand bundled recovery tool to burn a factory recovery DVD if the OS for SSD is of the same version  of the bundled OS (same language and bit version 64 bit).
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by:Jackie Man
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But in your case, your OS is not stable and I am doubtful that you can burn one DVD.

Actually, the sales who sold your notebook should have advised you to burn one set of factory restore DVD as all branded PC will not be bundled with factory restore DVD since Windows Vista and the users are advised to burn their DVD as soon as they start to use the PC.
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by:Jackie Man
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If you want to use OS other than windows, you need to have a spare SATA 2.5" HDD to do the OS installation and clone the OS of the HDD to SSD after completion of OS install.
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by:rindi
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You should really upgrade to Windows 10. It is faster on the same hardware than previous OS's were. If you do it now the upgrade is free (after the 29th it won't be free anymore). Your hardware should support Windows 10 without any problems at all. Once you have upgraded once and the system has been registered, you can do clean installations from the iso's you download from m$, and you won't ever need a key. So licensing will then not be any problem either.

Besides, you don't have to worry about getting the proper Windows 7 install media or recovery that works with your OEM version.
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I have stable high end desktop PC too :-)  I can do whatever is needed.... I really can't activate you think?  I don't mind calling microsoft to activate.  That's what I did when I had to install from scratch onto SSD in my desktop PC.... im 99% sure.... because I had fresh desktop after... not all the bloatware that comes with OEM version....
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by:Jackie Man
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Agreed.

Unless that you have some legacy applications which will not work with win 10, clean install of win 10 to SSD is a good move.
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by:Jackie Man
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MS will not entertain your request of activation as your OS is not retail or volume licence and their answer is to ask you to seek the help from the brand, but TOSHIBA will not and cannot help as you are not supposed to do a win 7 setup from non OEM setup media.
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by:Jackie Man
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I am not saying that you cannot try but I am sure that your method will not work unless you have an unused product key for your generic win 7 setup media.
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by:Rob Hutchinson
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easy way, is to do what David said and clone the drive--all the other options are going to be time consuming trying to make old hardware usable again like new which isn't going to happen.

make sure you install the drivers for the SSD before you clone if possible too.
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by:Rob Hutchinson
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also, if you clone, you waste nothing:
1) you're going to buy an SSD anyway even with going the Windows 10 route.
2) you have 5 days until the free Windows 10 upgrade expires.
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by:Jackie Man
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Cloning a failing HDD is prone to fail.

Your cloning experience confirmed the above.

 You need a clean install of the OS.

What is the brand and model of your SSD on hand?
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by:Gerald Connolly
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Cloning my HDD to my Samsung SSD was quick, easy and painless using the software supplied by Samsung
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by:David Johnson, CD, MVP
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Hard drives (both spinning rust and SSD) normally use the generic driver disk.sys if you are using the SATA connector. PCIE/ PCIE-NVMe drives would require specific drivers.
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by:rindi
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It's not the disks that require drivers, but rather the PC's disk controller. So it makes no difference in driver, as also the original system needed the same controller's driver.
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Good and helpful comments.
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