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Hi,

I have been using Stripe for the last few years but I find them too expensive, as they don't put a cap on their fees. One of my clients processes €5,000 payments with a fee of €120.

01 - does anyone know of a cheaper payment processor?

02 - I presume it is very difficult to build your own... regulated by the bank, PCI compliance, etc.?
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by:Jackie Man
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Can you give a breakdown of your $120 fee?

What is the average amount of your transaction?

There are not many choices.

Braintree might be a better alternative as they only apply the standard rate when your monthly transacted amount is over $50k.

https://www.braintreepayments.com/braintree-pricing
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Thank you.

Braintree is still very expensive.

2.4% of $5000 = $120
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by:John Hurst
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The overall fee (2.4%) is only a bit high. We have done a bit better with Global Payments but I think that is higher volume than you are talking about. Your fee probably reflects lower volume.

Q2. Not a chance. Bank compliance is an expensive and time consuming process (more than 6 months if you can get it correct on the first try).
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by:John Hurst
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In terms of payment processors for the example above, you are talking about $20 (or 20 Euros) because getting below 2% requires very high volume and perhaps some negotiation .
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Yes, but even paying $50 (1%) for one transaction is far too high.

The work involved in processing $5 vs $5000 is the same so there should be a cap.
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You will not get a 1% fee, Cannot happen.  Bank draft fees are as high or higher except they might be capped. Wire transfer fees are very expensive.

Even credit card fees are 2% or more.
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So do Stripe pay the bank and credit card companies some of their fee?
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by:John Hurst
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I do not know for Stripe, but in general, every middleman takes their cut.
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Ok, thank you.
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My main client was whining last night that Paypal is increasing their rates to 2.9%.  He also keeps saying that Braintree is the processing arm of Paypal.
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So PayPal plan to increase their fees?
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It will probably depend on volume how much fees go up. Competition works to keep fees down.
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Competition works to keep fees down.

And collusion between the banks and gateways keeps them up.  This is not a battle you can win, don't even waste the energy to fight it.  Find the best rate for your volume and go with it but expect to pay at least 2.5-2.9% for this stuff.
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Thanks.

We (Europe) only page 1.4% with Stripe which is good, but it still doesn't make large transactions feasible through online payments.
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This is just the way it is.  You pay the percentage or don't take credit cards.
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Large transactions are subject to more rigid compliance issue in order to control money laundering.
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Well thought answers which should help all members.
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