MS SQL + Default Value + Row Above

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Is there anyway of having the default value in a table be the value from the row above ?
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Éric MoreauSenior .Net Consultant
Top Expert 2016

Commented:
from SSMS? no.
What's your definition of "row above"? This is pretty vague, as the row above can change easily (think an order by clause).
Éric MoreauSenior .Net Consultant
Top Expert 2016

Commented:
from what I understand from the question, is that the person want to have SSMS automatically set default values when entering data using SSMS "edit top 200 rows". but I can be totally wrong here!
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I thought OP meant get "value" of last inserted row, and make that the default for the new row.
We'll see if there's any clarification
Nakul VachhrajaniTechnical Architect, Capgemini India

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Do you mean as part of a default constraint?

No.

Reason: In any RDBMS, order of the records is not important - a table is really just a set of data of the same type. To us, they are rows "above" and "below" because we "see" a list. Actually it is just a set of records.

Therefore, allowing to use the records from other rows violates basic RDBMS principles.

Workaround: Use a scalar valued function if it is utmost necessary to do this. Beware that you will run into concurrency, locking and other such issues.

My recommendation: Avoid the workaround.

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i am taking data from an excel sheet and putting into a temp table, i then need to move the data to actual table, the problem in the spreadsheet the CustomerID is for the one row and then blank until the orders for that customer ends and then a new CustomerID / Orders starts.

So i was thinking of a default value, but another thought would be to do something like an update statement before moving the data that updates the NULL value with the value above - or is that not possible either ?
Éric MoreauSenior .Net Consultant
Top Expert 2016

Commented:
how do you take the data from Excel to insert into your SQL table? you have an application or a SSIS package or ??? This is the place to preserve the last customer ID to repeat the value if empty.

Author

Commented:
unfortunately it is a automated process and I dont have access to change the source, that is why i was hoping i could do it on the database side
Éric MoreauSenior .Net Consultant
Top Expert 2016

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purely table side, there is nothing you can do. You could build a Stored Proc that would retrieve the data and copy the value from the previous row if the current is empty but even there, you would need to change your process to connect to the return of the stored proc which apparently you can't.

why not try to add something to your excel file then? a bit a vba code that would fill empty cells? but the user would have to activate somehow.
Chris LuttrellSenior Database Architect

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No the normal database DEFAULT syntax will not do what you want but there are other ways to work it.  Are you writing the insert statement that is loading it from the temp table into the actual one?  And what version of SQL Server are you on as that determines how it need to be done.

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Commented:
i am using SQL 2014 and yes using a sql statement to move the data from temp table to real table,
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An example query and you can modify as per your tables

/* Test Data & Table */
DECLARE @Customers TABLE
    (Dates datetime,
     Customer integer,
     Value integer)

    INSERT  INTO @Customers
    VALUES  ('20100101', 1, 12),
        ('20100101', 2, NULL),
        ('20100101', 3, 32),
        ('20100101', 4, 42),
        ('20100101', 5, 15),
        ('20100102', 1, NULL),
        ('20100102', 2, NULL),
        ('20100102', 3, 39),
        ('20100102', 4, NULL),
        ('20100102', 5, 16),
        ('20100103', 1, 13),
        ('20100103', 2, 24),
        ('20100103', 3, NULL),
        ('20100103', 4, NULL),
        ('20100103', 5, 21),
        ('20100104', 1, 14),
        ('20100104', 2, NULL),
        ('20100104', 3, NULL),
        ('20100104', 4, 65),
        ('20100104', 5, 23) ;

/* CustCTE - This gives us a RowNum to allow us to build the recursive CTE CleanCust */
WITH    CustCTE
          AS (SELECT    Customer,
                        Value,
                        Dates,
                        ROW_NUMBER() OVER (PARTITION BY Customer ORDER BY Dates) RowNum
              FROM      @Customers),

/* CleanCust - A recursive CTE. This runs down the list of values for each customer, checking the Value column, if it is null it gets the previous non NULL value.*/
        CleanCust
          AS (SELECT    Customer,
                        ISNULL(Value, 0) Value, /* Ensure we start with no NULL values for each customer */
                        Dates,
                        RowNum
              FROM      CustCte cur
              WHERE     RowNum = 1
              UNION ALL
              SELECT    Curr.Customer,
                        ISNULL(Curr.Value, prev.Value) Value,
                        Curr.Dates,
                        Curr.RowNum
              FROM      CustCte curr
              INNER JOIN CleanCust prev ON curr.Customer = prev.Customer
                                           AND curr.RowNum = prev.RowNum + 1)

/* Update the base table using the result set from the recursive CTE */
    UPDATE trg
    SET Value = src.Value
    FROM    @Customers trg
    INNER JOIN CleanCust src ON trg.Customer = src.Customer
                                AND trg.Dates = src.Dates

/* Display the results */
SELECT * FROM @Customers

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thanks for the help

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