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SBS2003 failure; need to seize FSMO

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Today our Windows SBS2003 Server has failed before we could migrate the domain. We successfully moved our email to Office365 online from Exchange and do not use Sharepoint. The Data has been backed up from the 8 Windows 7 workstations.
How can I seize the FSMO and services to replace this failed Server from a new Windows Server 2012?  Thank you very much for any help in advance.
Erichiwaann
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by:-MAS
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Hi,
Do you have additional domain controller?
If yes you can seize your additional domain controller.
https://www.petri.com/seizing_fsmo_roles

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by:Malmensa
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Quite simple, the fact that the old server was running SBS rather than Server 2003 makes no difference in this scenario.

Either use Powershell, or go old skool and do it with NTDSUTIL.

Powershell instructions here:
https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/PowerShell-TransferSeize-8e359e5a

NTDSUTIL here:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/255504
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by:Erichiwaann
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Unfortunately we do not have an additional DC. The SBS2003 Server is down/off. So I have a Windows 2012 Server that is currently connected to the domain. I have just used the "add roles" wizard to install AD, DNS and DC. But the DC wizard has failed when pointing to the existing local domain and will go no further. I am reading the powershell instructions now and will let you know ASAP. Thank you both.
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by:Erichiwaann
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Forgot to mention: The 2012 Server is currently only a "member server"...
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Hi Erichiwaan,
If you do not have an ADC before the failure of FSMO holder your only option is to recover from backup or setup an entirely new domain controller with a new domain from scratch.


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MAS
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by:Erichiwaann
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So it will be the latter I'm afraid-  "setting up a new domain controller with a new domain from scratch".  After I create the new domain, how can I add the workstations and keep the users desktops?
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by:-MAS
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I am afraid you will have to add domain added PCs to the new domain after backing up the profile.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/971759
Restore the profile after adding PC to new domain.

You may use this to unjoin and join to new domain.
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh849798(v=wps.620).aspx

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MAS
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by:Erichiwaann
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Thank you MAS. How long do I have to do this or before the broken domains workstations have networking issues running without the SBS2003? Just curious...
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OK, seizing FSMO roles is something you can only do on a domain controller that has a valid copy of the domain data.

In your case, getting this would require the old SBS box to be at least partly functional, it would have to be working as a DC.

The alternative is to start again, creating  all the users, and adding all PCs to the domain. The new users and machines, even if named the same will be different. Any security settings applied to folders and files will be invalid.

How badly "failed" is the old SBS2003 server?  Is it feasible to get it on its feet for 30 mins or so while you add the 2012 server and sync the domain data?
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by:Jeffrey Kane - TechSoEasy
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Since you have to set up a new domain you can "migrate" the workstations and preserve the user's profiles and data if you use the ForensIT User Profile Wizard.  It's free and it works great -- I use it regularly for situations like this.

The wizard will join the workstations to the new Server 2012 domain and migrate the profiles all at once.

Remember though, since you no longer have an SBS you now need CALS for your new Server 2012 domain.
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by:Erichiwaann
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Attempting to revive the Server through a series of hardware transplants....
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by:Erichiwaann
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The used hardware transplants did not take I'm afraid and will be moving forward with the ForensIT User Profile Wizard. Thanks for everyone's participation so far. I really appreciate your expertise very much.
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by:Erichiwaann
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Thanks for everyones help. Unfortunately the ForensIT User Profile Wizard didn't work for me and I had to add the PCs to the new domain. And now have DNS issues. Should I start another thread to get some help with this?
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Start a new thread to get a faster response.
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by:Erichiwaann
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Unfortunately I was not able to migrate user profiles with the ForensIT User Profile Wizard and had to re-connected each workstation. I appreciate everyone's input and expertise within this thread. Have a good weekend! Erichiwaann
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