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Win 7 sp1 updates on a new Fresh install taking an age

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I'm noticing that it's taking days to get the first updates after bare bone installs of win 7 with sp1

Is there any Fixs ?

I notice MS have stopped their fix it aps
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by:John Hurst
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Microsoft is deliberately making it tough to update Windows 7.

First try the April 2016 convenience roll up. You must be SP1 to use this and it does not always work.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/kb/3125574

Once that is complete, do the following (I do this and it works 95% of the time).

Go to Windows Updates, switch to Never Update, close out, shut down, start up again.
Now set Windows Updates to Automatic, Updates will start running. Let run overnight.

Normally by next morning, updates will be complete.
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by:feck1
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I'm having a word with bill gates when i see him next

That's nuts to have to do a VB script to get updates !

Will try it

:-(
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by:feck1
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I've win 7 sp1

Do I just create a VB script from that code or do I have to something first ?
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First install the newer update agent:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/949104

Then the following KB, and when done, reboot:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3102810

After that the search for updates will only take a short time (Last week I installed a Windows 7 PC, and it took about 15 minutes until the updates were shown).

The download and installation of them will then take some time, depending on your internet bandwidth and the speed of your PC, but there are a lot of updates so that is to be expected.
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by:rindi
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I don't recommend the convenience rollup. I have tried that several times, and out of 10 tries it worked properly only once. Most of the times it would install, then reboot and say installing updates, then tell you it failed and is rolling back.
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by:feck1
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It's a disgrace. I really like win 7.
Lots of my customers have it

It's making a difficult job difficulter !
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by:rindi
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If you follow my instructions you should have no issues at all.
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by:John Hurst
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Also just allow to run overnight. This is not a Windows 7 issue and there is normally nothing to fix . Microsoft knows about this issue and will not fix it.
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by:nobus
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it's a real shame they stop supporting windows7 - that everyone likes
but money must come in - one way or another
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by:rindi
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Windows 7 SP1 is still being supported until January 2020.
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by:John Hurst
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I did not mean to suggest Windows 7 is not supported. What I meant was Microsoft has made Windows 7 updates at their end slow, they know about this, and they are not fixing it. Fixing it may need an update to Windows 7
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by:rindi
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That's what the new update agent and the KB fix. With them the updates aren't any slower than with Windows 10.
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by:nobus
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instead of delivering a "new" os  and stopping older os - why don't they concentrate on the update problems?  they should be aware by now, and have a way to fix it properly

maybe instead of weekly updates - should they turn to monthly updates to crash the pc's ?
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by:rindi
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As I already mentioned, the two patches are the fix. What more do you need? On windows 7 they are still using monthly updates, on "patch Tuesday". M$ defender signatures are the exception, or when a big security hole is found and fixed, an update sometimes gets pushed out outside the patch Tuesday. It's only from Windows 8 upward that you can get more frequent updates.
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by:John Hurst
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Rindi - Thank you for all of this.

Up to and including July Patch Tuesday in 2016, my Windows 7 Pro 64-bit Virtual Machine was very slow to update (up to and including leaving on overnight),, but it always did update.

August Patch Tuesday updates went very quickly (less than 30 minutes to completely update the machine).

I started the machine this morning, KB3102810 had already been installed earlier and I installed KB949194.

The machine is operating and updating very well.

Thanks again.
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by:joinaunion
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Are you talking about downloading or install of the updates? What type of connection do you have? Wired or wireless?
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by:John Hurst
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Once Windows 7 has finally downloaded updates, installation is fine on any normal machine. Downloading is the issue and the links Rindi posted solves the problem.
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by:rindi
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Actually it isn't the  downloading which is the problem. That is purely dependent on your ISP and bandwidth. The problem is if you haven't installed the patches, and start windows updates, it can take many hours until the system even reacts and finds out what updates it needs. During that period you'll see "Checking for updates" and nothing seems to happen for hours. That's the first stage of the windows Updates, before any download starts. With the patches I mentioned, that part only takes minutes, rather than hours or days.

Once those updates are listed, you can select the ones you need and the download time will be the same with or without the patches.

After the download is finished, the updates get installed. Also here it takes less time to install those updates if the patches were installed previously.
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