How to overlap an image over a table?

Graeme
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Hi there, was just wondering if.. you can overlap an image over a table?

<table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width=1330 height=220 align=center bordercolor=black>
	<tr>
		<td height=190 width=55>&nbsp;</td>
		<td height=240 width=200 rowspan=2 valign=middle><a href=?><img src=http://www.activenquiry.info/images/brand-GPT.png height=200></a></td>
		<td height=190 width=55>&nbsp;</td>
		<td height=190 width=720>&nbsp;</td>
		<td height=190 width=300 valign=middle>
			<table width=300>
				<tr>
					<td align=right class=menu><b><font size=3>Good morning Traveller</font></b></td>
				</tr>
				<tr>
					<td align=right><font size=2><a href=http://customer.gptouring.com.au class=menu>Log in to GP Touring Portal</a></font></td>
				</tr>
			</table>
		</td>
		<td height=190 width=20>&nbsp;</td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
		<td height=50 bgcolor=black>&nbsp;</td>
		<td height=50 bgcolor=black>&nbsp;</td>
		<td height=50 bgcolor=black colspan=2>
			<table>
				<tr>
					<td>&nbsp;&nbsp;<font size=5><a class=menu href=?menu=meu>Menu</a></font>&nbsp;&nbsp;</td>
				</tr>
			</table
		</td>
		<td height=50 bgcolor=black>&nbsp;</td>
	</tr>
</table>

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<img src=http://www.activenquiry.info/images/brand-GPT.png height=200>

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is what I would like to have the black bar go underneath the bottom (where as currently the black bar isnt there)

I have considered cutting the image into 2 however this is a template website and many different logos, etc will be used, so cutting isnt an option - where i need the full logo

Thanks in advance
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Olaf DoschkeSoftware Developer
Commented:
Well, this comes from rowspan=2, the picture spans two rows, so next tr leaves a gap for the second td.

If you remove that the first row will be higher, pushing everything down.

If you don't want that, but allow the logo to overflow into the next row, then use absolute position:

<td height=190 width=200 valign=middle><a href=?><img style='position:absolute' src=http://www.activenquiry.info/images/brand-GPT.png height=200></a></td>

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PS: you might also try table-layout:fixed, as per this article: https://css-tricks.com/fixing-tables-long-strings/

Bye, Olaf.
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It is generally not considered a good idea to use tables for layout?

Can you post a mockup (image) of how you want the screen to look - so we can potentially suggest a different approach.
Graemewebber4technologies

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Commented:
Julian - here is the pic of how i want it to look

Logo-howto.png
Olaf DoschkeSoftware Developer

Commented:
Have you tried, what I gave? At least it goes in that direction, the bar is gapless and the logo overlaps. On my browsers the logo appears too low, but you can adjust the position.

Bye, Olaf.
Graemewebber4technologies

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Commented:
Hi Olaf, just trying now, will be back to you in a little bit, thanks for replying and following up :)
Software Developer
Commented:
Relative positioning also works:

style='position:relative; top:30px;'

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Dipping the logo down 30px from it's usual position.

Bye, Olaf.

PS: The essential part is to not use rowspan and instead move the image from its original position, the default css will allow overflow, if not, also set overflow:visible instead of hidden.

PPS: It's true what others say, this layout does not essentially qualify for being done with a tabl, but if you stick with that, what qualifies for a span is the black bar, it could be a single td with colspan of the number of columns the table has, so it's just one black cell.
Graemewebber4technologies

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Hi Olaf have tried your way and with a little adjustment works! :)

position:absolute; top:80px

thanks!

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