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Removing read only on folders on windows 8.1

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i have been trying to get an old game (Freelancer) to work on my windows 8.1 laptop.

When I try to start it I get the "allow to make changes" dialog but then nothing happens.
The Freelancer folder (in Program files (x86)/Windows Games) shows as Read Only which I can reset but just shows up again the next time I look.
I have changed the User permissions and owner and also tried running the "attrib -r" command from an administrator command prompt.

Does anyone have any ideas?
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Does this old game use an *.INI or *.CFG file in the same folder as the program's EXE (or even in the "Windows" folder) to save its settings to, or is it one that stores all of its settings in the registry?

Did you actually install this program using a setup routine, or did you simply back up all the files from a previous version of Windows and copy them into a new program folder on the current computer?

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I have uninstalled Freelancer and reinstalled it on another drive so no longer under program files (x86)

@D Patel
Have tried all your steps and it looks as though the permissions are right even though the folder properties still show read only

@BillDL
Installation is done via setup folder from original disk.

@rindi
I cannot find any folders that would stop saving a game but then again I cannot get it to where it even starts after giving it permission to make changes.

I am starting to wonder if the problem is my laptop or graphics card as the game is very old. I have tried using Windows XP (SP 3) as my compatability mode. I know of others that can get this game to run on an 8.1 operating system

I have an ASUS "gaming laptop"
Intel i7-4700HQ CPU @ 2.40GHz
16Gb Ram
64-bit operating system
NVIDEA GEForce GTX 850M graphics card
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I have looked through the registry and  program files folder. My laptop does not have a C:\ProgramData folder. I am also trying to run the program with the original disk in the drive.

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I will try to find help on where the registry stuff is stored from one of the freelancer sites.
Freelancer is 13 years old but has a very active modding community with some quite impressive mods like Crossfire etc.
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"set A" shows
ALLUSERSPROFILE=C:\ProgramData
APPDATA=C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming

Under Windows explorer I cannot see either of these folders.
The closest is C:\Users\Brian\Roaming but this just has /Intel/Wireless/ in it
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In Folder Options of the Control panel make sure you have enabled "show Hidden files, Folders and drives, and under "Navigation Pane" also enable "Show all Folders".

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Thanks, I can now see these folders but there is no reference to the game there.

I will try reinstalling the game in the default folder (ProgramFiles (x86)) and see what I can find. I have installed using the default before without luck.

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Process Explorer, a suggested earlier, would be my final tool for tryiing to find out which file or folder is the culprit, before giving up.

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The trouble is that the user account control comes up asking if I want to make a change after I sometimes get a quick "flash" of Freelancer in the Process explorer that then disappears.

By selecting "OK" I see 2 entries come up in, Process Explorer for dllhost.exe, that turn green, then red then disappear all in a couple of seconds. I am then still left with no clue.
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Sorry, it's Process Monitor I wanted to suggest.

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I have used Process Monitor (with filtering) to find 2 places where Freelancer could not find registry entries and changed permissions for these.

There was also potential issues with my Razer gaming mouse that was trying to configure itself (straight after Freelancer tried to start) for the game but failing so I have uninstalled that.
I have reinstalled the program twice as administrator but even though the entries in Process Monitor for Freelancer show success, it is still not starting.

I will keep at it and let you know if I have any success.

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I believe I have found the issue. It appears that Freelancer is trying to find the wing.dll and wing32.dll files.

These are no longer supplied with later operating systems (or from Microsoft themselves) and so Freelancer (and a few other games I found on the net) are no longer supported.

As I no longer have an XP system to copy these files from so, even if this is the last issue, I am stuck with having to download a potentially dangerous version of the dlls or give up.
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I managed to find a XP machine at work and have found the same thing. It looks as though these are old Win95 Win98 dlls for graphic display.
I have checked my installation disk and cannot find them on that, but I have had it running on a XP machine and the forums say that others have it running on Win 7 and 8 as well.
I can only assume these dlls are hidden somewhere on the CD and the permissions are not right on my  laptop. I have no idea why the game is looking for them.

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I have found my old XP Hard drive, from the PC that ran Freelancer last time, docked it and connected to my laptop via USB. I cannot find the files there either.
Trying to run it from the old installation folder gives the error "Common.dll not found"

I have a suspicion that the issue I have is incompatibility between the game and graphics card. This may be a reason that it was looking for those very old files (wing.dll, wing32.dll) as this may be some type of default.
Even though I have installed the latest drivers for the card, the card was also why I could not get my laptop to run windows 10 as there was some sort of compatibility issue between them.

It is probably time to cut my losses on this. Thanks for all the advice.
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