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Not a Schema Admin? Schema Role on Non-AD Controller?

On a 2000 Forest, and 2008 R2 DC, I tried to raise the functional level and it says I cannot because the schema master is not reachable.  Strangely, the Schema and Naming master is on a 2012 Member server.  Yes, I said that right.  I went to seize the roles back to he 2008 R2 DC and it says I do not have sufficient rights as domain admin.  I go to look at the group membership of the schema admins and it says I cannot view the properties.  

All I can think is that some junior admin took offline an old AD controller and did not move these roles.  This old server is gone - years gone.  Not sure how I can proceed.  It is a small network.  Is my best bet to simply create a new domain?  Or can you all help me?

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OK I found out more - and there is a CORRECTION to my original question.

The server that has the schema master and the domain naming master is NOT the 2112 server.  It is the old 2000 Domain controller, a parent domain - which is gone.  So this domain that I exist in is a sub domain missing it's parent.  

parent was xxx.local (2000 functional level) - as well as the forest
my current domain (2008 functional level) is office.xxx.local

What a mess.  Is there any way out of this one?  

When I try to seize (using an elevated prompt) I get the error below. - I believe it is because the users group from xxx.local (the parent domain) has no DC.  ...and Enterprise Admins consists of xxx.local\users.  I am logging on as Domain Admin from the sub domain.  Can't get in as Enterprise Admin....

fsmo maintenance: seize naming master
Attempting safe transfer of domain naming FSMO before seizure.
ldap_modify_sW error 0x32(50 (Insufficient Rights).
Ldap extended error message is 00002098: SecErr: DSID-031523E0, problem 4003 (IN
SUFF_ACCESS_RIGHTS), data 0

Win32 error returned is 0x2098(Insufficient access rights to perform the operati
on.)
)
Depending on the error code this may indicate a connection,
ldap, or role transfer error.
Transfer of domain naming FSMO failed, proceeding with seizure ...
ldap_modify of SD failed with 0x32(50 (Insufficient Rights).
Ldap extended error message is 00000005: SecErr: DSID-03152492, problem 4003 (IN
SUFF_ACCESS_RIGHTS), data 0

Win32 error returned is 0x5(Access is denied.)
)
fsmo maintenance:
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fsmo maintenance: seize schema master
Attempting safe transfer of schema FSMO before seizure.
ldap_modify_sW error 0x32(50 (Insufficient Rights).
Ldap extended error message is 00002098: SecErr: DSID-031523E0, problem 4003 (IN
SUFF_ACCESS_RIGHTS), data 0

Win32 error returned is 0x2098(Insufficient access rights to perform the operati
on.)
)
Depending on the error code this may indicate a connection,
ldap, or role transfer error.
Transfer of schema FSMO failed, proceeding with seizure ...
ldap_modify of SD failed with 0x32(50 (Insufficient Rights).
Ldap extended error message is 00000005: SecErr: DSID-03152492, problem 4003 (IN
SUFF_ACCESS_RIGHTS), data 0

Win32 error returned is 0x5(Access is denied.)
)
fsmo maintenance:
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Thanks.  I think you're right.  The former admin did this 5 years ago and probably knew about it.  Thankfully it's a small network and won't be too painful.  Going to leave this open for a while, just to see if a miracle appears.
Hope springs eternal :=>
Thanks for the help everybody!