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Steps to Mastering AS400, CL, and i Navigator
Its a tall order but i want to dive right into knowing how to start Mastering this AS400
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James K: Your profile here doesn't describe your background, so trying to recommend directions of study is harder. The AS/400 line has expanded in capabilities so much that now IBM i systems have various elements that touch on a few other platforms. Depending on your background, you might make faster progress by going at things through an appropriate interface. Can you give some general background?
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I did the following commands type GO LICPGM, select option 10, and press F11 to view the release info)
I see Installed version V7RM0
I see Installed version V7RM0
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I am also running IBM System i Naviagator version 7 Release 1 Modification level 0 on the pc
Think you dropped the Release digit from GO LICPGM. It will be V7R1, R2, or R3. That is the version you will use when looking in the IBM Knowledgebase. The vast majority of functions are the same from releast to release, but IBM adds new capabilities each time, so it is always best to use the version of documentation that matches the version(s) you are running in your shop.
With each new OS release, IBM issues a formal document called the "Memo to users" that details all of the changes that went into the new release, and this generally makes its way into the Knowledgebase, too.
With each new OS release, IBM issues a formal document called the "Memo to users" that details all of the changes that went into the new release, and this generally makes its way into the Knowledgebase, too.
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It shows
V7R1M0 L00
that's all i see
V7R1M0 L00
that's all i see
V7R1. You left the "1" out earlier:
I see Installed version V7RM0
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Ok so what direction does that point us in and is there any training material for it
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I want to start out with basic operation of that MainFrame(midrange for those who are picky) but basically how to copy and back up LIB and then intro to CL language but an accelerated way of learning it
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I want to start out with basic operation of that MainFrame(midrange for those who are picky)
"Wow, that's a beautiful sailboat over there."
"Well, it is a boat, but that's a powerboat. See, no sail?"
"Oh. Well I'd really like to learn how to sail a sailboat like that - or powerboat if you're picky."
Gary's analogy is appropriate more or less. But it possibly doesn't go far enough. I'd think of power- vs. sail-boat closer to IBM i vs. UNIX perhaps. For mainframe vs. midrange, I'd think of a mainframe as a ship of the line, possibly man-of-war, a large galleon, at least 3-mast but often 4-mast, full-rigged ship. Midrange could be a schooner, perhaps clipper at their largest, a corvette, a brig.
PCs would be catboats, etc., and for PC servers up to perhaps caravels which could also be into the low end of midrange.
You can learn basic sailing concepts in cat boats, but it really only prepares you to be a cabinboy or the lowest, most junior deck hand on a full-rigged, 4-mast ship. And when the ship sails across an ocean, you'll mostly be the one who goes for coffee. Similarly, good experience on a corvette won't get your man-of-war through its major journeys.
The higher techniques can make sense if you already know the earlier ones, but tools that worked before simply no longer fit. You have to know the larger, more appropriate tools.
In IBM i, a common "tool" might be the WRKACTJOB command to "work with active jobs". It fits with the general range of numbers of users, of subsystems, of jobs that generally can be active in midrange systems. But up in the mainframe class, that tool potentially would be too limited even for a single subsystem. When tens of thousands of users are signed on and running interactive jobs, Mainframes need bigger and different tools.
Some other areas, such as I/O channel programming, aren't a consideration outside of mainframes. At least, you don't see it except perhaps in vendors or manufacturers. Routing I/O in a mainframe can be a significant activity by itself.
But that's all apart from the question.
To me, it still goes back to "What background are you coming from?"
PCs would be catboats, etc., and for PC servers up to perhaps caravels which could also be into the low end of midrange.
You can learn basic sailing concepts in cat boats, but it really only prepares you to be a cabinboy or the lowest, most junior deck hand on a full-rigged, 4-mast ship. And when the ship sails across an ocean, you'll mostly be the one who goes for coffee. Similarly, good experience on a corvette won't get your man-of-war through its major journeys.
The higher techniques can make sense if you already know the earlier ones, but tools that worked before simply no longer fit. You have to know the larger, more appropriate tools.
In IBM i, a common "tool" might be the WRKACTJOB command to "work with active jobs". It fits with the general range of numbers of users, of subsystems, of jobs that generally can be active in midrange systems. But up in the mainframe class, that tool potentially would be too limited even for a single subsystem. When tens of thousands of users are signed on and running interactive jobs, Mainframes need bigger and different tools.
Some other areas, such as I/O channel programming, aren't a consideration outside of mainframes. At least, you don't see it except perhaps in vendors or manufacturers. Routing I/O in a mainframe can be a significant activity by itself.
But that's all apart from the question.
To me, it still goes back to "What background are you coming from?"
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THanks Tliotta,
Im thinking even you want to sail and if so lets get in a ship and sail the high seas
Your explanation and comparasion is very colorful good stuff and maybe the iseries 7 is not as massive as the 3 sails but thats ok
This is all i have so let me know how i can max out its potential in what it can do. I only want to master this particular model for now then will move to the big dogs later on. Right now this little puppy powerseries 7 i am on has teeth because if it goes down it bites.....
Im thinking even you want to sail and if so lets get in a ship and sail the high seas
Your explanation and comparasion is very colorful good stuff and maybe the iseries 7 is not as massive as the 3 sails but thats ok
This is all i have so let me know how i can max out its potential in what it can do. I only want to master this particular model for now then will move to the big dogs later on. Right now this little puppy powerseries 7 i am on has teeth because if it goes down it bites.....
"Fast Track iSeries & AS/400 System Operations" -Patterson
Yes, that is shameless self-promotion :-)
I've got quite a few of those leftover from when Midrange Computing Magazine went out of business.