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How to complete an 'Apply Security' to a drive

Posted on 2016-10-25
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We took out a hard drive from an old notebook which data we need.  When connecting to one of our working computers as an external drive, we have no access:

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We right-click the drive, Properties and Advance and we get a "unable display current owner":

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Then we click Change and set the owner to Administrator:

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The process starts and we have to click Continue at repeated points of the process:

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The question is:

- Is there a way to make the process not ask every time or make it answer "Continue" automatically?
  (we search our others PC and found that the windows folders  "\WINDOWS\WINSXS" have over 30,000 files
   to click 'Continue' to)
- Or, what is the proper way to access a drive extracted from a computer?
- Finally, what is "replace all child object permission entries with inheritable permission entries from this object" and should we have marked it"


(hope we set the info for the question to be clear of what we want)

Note the drive from the bad computer is Windows 7 pro and we connected to our Windows 10 pro.  Also, this same drive we have extracted other times from the computer and had no problem reading it)
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Simply elevate explorer.exe so there is no need for an acl change. I will return with instructions.
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Makes sense! Ok will try!

What about if we create a shortcut to explorer.exe then on the shortcut right-click >> check on 'Run as admin', would that have the same effect?
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As I wrote: use the registry modification first, then create that shortcut or right click explorer.exe.
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Oh ok, didn't read the last line of creating the shortcut.
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Hi,

It didn't work at first and it was becuase there was a"\" missing after "AppID", so FYI on it (got us to the address with  'HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\{CDCBCFCA-3CDC-436f-A4E2-0E02075250C2}').

Question prior doing changes, you asked us to rename RunAs to _RunAs, what effect should we expect in other apps or Windows function if any?
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No effect on anything else.
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gave an error..

.. question, can just log in as the actual Administrator and run explorer? or do we have to always change the registry?
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You need to change the security of the registry key, first, just like you tried to do with the files: first change ownership, then add full access for your account, then rename the key.
" or do we have to always change the registry?" - if you would like to activate the built-in administrator (I guess that is what you mean by "actual") and use that one, please go ahead, it would work.
But the effort is less after you once changed the registry key.
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Thanx.. going for it!
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We decided to go with your advice ... but also permission problem:

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You have to follow the correct procedure. Change ownership, close regedit, reopen it, change permissions. This needs to be done by an admin.
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In ID: 41861230 you said "You need to change the security of the registry key,", so we right-click >> Permission on the key 'HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\{CDCBCFCA-3CDC-436f-A4E2-0E02075250C2}'.  But as the pix shows in ID: 41861474, there is no ownership option.

Also note, the user has admin rights:

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Wait did it; we had to go thru 'Advance'.

Ok will try again.

In the pix of the question, what is check option  "replace all child object permission entries with inheritable permission entries from this object" and should we have marked it"?
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"should we have marked it" - you will not need it since you'll soon be able to use an elevated explorer.
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OK, thanx!

But for our info, what does it mean?
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This will do what the description says: touch all underlying files and folders and reset their permissions to the same values as the parent folder that you are editing right now.
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Go it!

Thanx!

We will go on with the hard drive from the old notebook of data we need.
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Question,

Just finish clicking "Change" and chose "Administrator"; should check "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects" also?
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What are you doing, are you in regedit?
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The registry part is done.  We are starting from beginning (as the question states):

connected the US hard drive >> right-click >> Properties >> Security >> Advance >> click 'Change' on Owner >> Inserted Administrator >> (here is where we ask about  "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects")
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It seems you haven't understood what this registry thing was about. After editing, you can now elevate explorer.exe (right click it and select "run as administrator") so that it will run with highest permissions.
You could do that before with any program except explorer. For explorer, the registry modification was needed. Now that that is done, right click explorer.exe, run as admin and try to open your external drive.
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Yes, sorry about.  Was think of the actual process of what made us place the questions, totally forgot about the elevated explorer.  

Will do.
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Yes it worked!!!  U-R-D-MAN!!!

Thanx!!!
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Great.

One last thing: Remember, that even the admin may not see all areas of a disk. Some are only viewable by the system account. So if you encounter any access denials in system folders (deep below c:\windows), you will need to do the old procedure of taking ownership and changing the permissions for those folders.
But: this will never be necessary for user data folders.
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