how can I upgrade my Visual Land Premier 10 tablet from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 with limited space?
Hello and Good Evening Everyone,
Due to the nature of this upcoming question, I believe it is more of a storage issue as opposed to an operating system issue. Basically, I wish to upgrade a Visual Land Premier 10 tablet currently running Windows 8.1 to Windows 10. However, here is the catch. The internal storage capacity of this tablet is only 8GB with only 899MB free. Given this tricky situation, could someone share some insights with respect to accomplishing this goal?
Thank you
George
Due to the nature of this upcoming question, I believe it is more of a storage issue as opposed to an operating system issue. Basically, I wish to upgrade a Visual Land Premier 10 tablet currently running Windows 8.1 to Windows 10. However, here is the catch. The internal storage capacity of this tablet is only 8GB with only 899MB free. Given this tricky situation, could someone share some insights with respect to accomplishing this goal?
Thank you
George
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> only 8GB is being indicated for C:
Is there a D: with the other 8GB?
> 30GB for the 32GB Micro SDHC card
That may be the 1000 vs. 1024 issue.
> assuming some of this space on the Micro SDHC card is being occupied by system files
I doubt it. Is the MicroSDHC card showing as a drive letter in File Manager?
Is there a D: with the other 8GB?
> 30GB for the 32GB Micro SDHC card
That may be the 1000 vs. 1024 issue.
> assuming some of this space on the Micro SDHC card is being occupied by system files
I doubt it. Is the MicroSDHC card showing as a drive letter in File Manager?
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Hello and Good Morning Everyone,
I am sorry for the slight delay in providing some updates to this thread. I went to bed very shortly after creating this post. At any rate, let me go ahead and take a moment to provide some updates. Within File Manager, I only see Drive C which is indicating a red bar because of almost being full in addition to Drive D for the Micro SD card. Unfortunately, I do not see any other drive letters.
Speaking theoretically of course, is it possible to somehow clone the contents of the internal storage of the tablet onto the 32GB Micro SD card, then, power off the tablet and swap them out? I am not sure what type of internal storage mechanism or unit this tablet uses, so, I am really creating a hypothetical scenario here. It does seem logical that this might can possibly be done if the internal storage unit is Micro SD. What does everyone else think about this? Is it a possibility?
In closing, I did take the liberty last night of contacting Visual Land, the manufacture of this Visual Land Premier 10 tablet running Windows 8.1 explaining my concerns surrounding the internal storage capacity being advertised at 16GB, but, only having 8GB on it. I also inquired about the operating system upgrade potential of this tablet in response to my desire to upgrade it from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10. Finally, I also inquired about the types of Micro SD cards which is supported by this tablet. I believe we confirmed though from a past closed post that this tablet will only support up to a 32GB MicroSDHC card. At the moment, I am awaiting for a response from a representative of Visual Land to these questions which might be 24 to 48 hours. Once I obtain feedback from someone, I will post back right away. In the meantime, I certainly welcome any additional insights or thoughts which might prove fruitful in moving forward with my goals of this tablet.
Thank you
George
I am sorry for the slight delay in providing some updates to this thread. I went to bed very shortly after creating this post. At any rate, let me go ahead and take a moment to provide some updates. Within File Manager, I only see Drive C which is indicating a red bar because of almost being full in addition to Drive D for the Micro SD card. Unfortunately, I do not see any other drive letters.
Speaking theoretically of course, is it possible to somehow clone the contents of the internal storage of the tablet onto the 32GB Micro SD card, then, power off the tablet and swap them out? I am not sure what type of internal storage mechanism or unit this tablet uses, so, I am really creating a hypothetical scenario here. It does seem logical that this might can possibly be done if the internal storage unit is Micro SD. What does everyone else think about this? Is it a possibility?
In closing, I did take the liberty last night of contacting Visual Land, the manufacture of this Visual Land Premier 10 tablet running Windows 8.1 explaining my concerns surrounding the internal storage capacity being advertised at 16GB, but, only having 8GB on it. I also inquired about the operating system upgrade potential of this tablet in response to my desire to upgrade it from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10. Finally, I also inquired about the types of Micro SD cards which is supported by this tablet. I believe we confirmed though from a past closed post that this tablet will only support up to a 32GB MicroSDHC card. At the moment, I am awaiting for a response from a representative of Visual Land to these questions which might be 24 to 48 hours. Once I obtain feedback from someone, I will post back right away. In the meantime, I certainly welcome any additional insights or thoughts which might prove fruitful in moving forward with my goals of this tablet.
Thank you
George
I am not sure how an SD card (removable) can be fully integrated into an OS installation. My guess is your Windows 8 OS was squeezed into 8GB.
To test this, turn the machine off, remove the SD card and try to start. Does it start correctly?
To test this, turn the machine off, remove the SD card and try to start. Does it start correctly?
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Hi Everyone,
I did get a response back from Visual Land regarding the hard drive storage. The representative did inform me that the storage capacity is suppose to be 16GB. However, I did explain to him in a returned correspondence that it is indicating 8GB within File Manager. With respect to the other two questions relating to the operating system upgrade potential from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 in addition to the highest capacity MicroSD card supported, I am still awaiting a response.
George
I did get a response back from Visual Land regarding the hard drive storage. The representative did inform me that the storage capacity is suppose to be 16GB. However, I did explain to him in a returned correspondence that it is indicating 8GB within File Manager. With respect to the other two questions relating to the operating system upgrade potential from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 in addition to the highest capacity MicroSD card supported, I am still awaiting a response.
George
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Hi Everyone,
Well, I just got an email from a representative of Visual Land. Their response is as follows: "The only way to see the whole 16 Gb is to delete the whole operating system, which i highly do not advise. You can always delete apps you do not need to open up more space". Personally, this does make sense to me. What does everyone else think about this answer given to me by this company?
George
Well, I just got an email from a representative of Visual Land. Their response is as follows: "The only way to see the whole 16 Gb is to delete the whole operating system, which i highly do not advise. You can always delete apps you do not need to open up more space". Personally, this does make sense to me. What does everyone else think about this answer given to me by this company?
George
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Hello and Good Afternoon,
Thank you Joe for your extensive research into my tablet along with the concerns I am having with it. I have printed out your latest suggestions along with the comments given by customers who have this tablet. I will review everything tonight. Over the weekend, I should be able to provide some updates and hopefully closure to this post.
Once again, thank you very much Joe for going that extra distance here.
George
Thank you Joe for your extensive research into my tablet along with the concerns I am having with it. I have printed out your latest suggestions along with the comments given by customers who have this tablet. I will review everything tonight. Over the weekend, I should be able to provide some updates and hopefully closure to this post.
Once again, thank you very much Joe for going that extra distance here.
George
You're welcome, George. I look forward to hearing back from you during the weekend. Regards, Joe
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Hello and Good Afternoon Everyone,
As promised, I am getting back with everyone to provide some updates relating to my progress. Using the steps of accessing Disk Management as outlined by Joe, I was able to quickly determine that the hard drive does indeed have a recovery partition. This partition does not have a drive letter which certainly explains why it was not seen within File Manager. Its storage capacity is 6.35GB with free space of 6.35GB which matches very closely to the 8GB of space that was not originally detected within the properties of Drive C:\>. In my attempt to expand C: so the empty space within the recovery partition would merge with it, I utilized the steps as outlined by Joe to access the option of Extend Volume. Unfortunately, whenever I selected C: drive within Disk Management, the option of Extend Volume was seen but disabled.
With respect to the next step, I would like to extend the C drive by merging it with the empty space within the recovery partition. Seeing that the option of Extend Volume is disabled within the menu, this might be a bit tricky. I am also still awaiting a response too from Visual Land regarding the MicroSD reader. Hopefully, I will have the option of buying higher capacity storage SDXC cards which will certainly open up more options for installing programs and backing up data.
George
As promised, I am getting back with everyone to provide some updates relating to my progress. Using the steps of accessing Disk Management as outlined by Joe, I was able to quickly determine that the hard drive does indeed have a recovery partition. This partition does not have a drive letter which certainly explains why it was not seen within File Manager. Its storage capacity is 6.35GB with free space of 6.35GB which matches very closely to the 8GB of space that was not originally detected within the properties of Drive C:\>. In my attempt to expand C: so the empty space within the recovery partition would merge with it, I utilized the steps as outlined by Joe to access the option of Extend Volume. Unfortunately, whenever I selected C: drive within Disk Management, the option of Extend Volume was seen but disabled.
With respect to the next step, I would like to extend the C drive by merging it with the empty space within the recovery partition. Seeing that the option of Extend Volume is disabled within the menu, this might be a bit tricky. I am also still awaiting a response too from Visual Land regarding the MicroSD reader. Hopefully, I will have the option of buying higher capacity storage SDXC cards which will certainly open up more options for installing programs and backing up data.
George
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Hello and Good Evening Everyone,
I have sent an email to Visual Land requesting the operating system upgrade potential of my tablet. I anticipate receiving an answer tomorrow. Once I receive their shared thoughts and insights, I will post back comments and closing remarks. To be perfectly honest, I should had resolved this question much earlier with this company. At any rate, I will be back in touch soon.
Thanks everyone for your excellent feedback and patience.
George
I have sent an email to Visual Land requesting the operating system upgrade potential of my tablet. I anticipate receiving an answer tomorrow. Once I receive their shared thoughts and insights, I will post back comments and closing remarks. To be perfectly honest, I should had resolved this question much earlier with this company. At any rate, I will be back in touch soon.
Thanks everyone for your excellent feedback and patience.
George
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Hello and Good Evening Joe and John,
Thank you very much for your shared suggestions, tips, illustrations, and resourceful links which I found to be enlightening and insightful. From past help the both of you have given me, I have come to expect nothing less. Your feedback has always been on target with each and every question and follow up question.
With regards to what I have decided regarding this tablet, I have come to the conclusion it would be best to do the following: (1) Leave Windows 8.1 on the tablet and not bother with upgrading to Windows 10. Seeing that I never heard back from Visual Land regarding whether this tablet will be compatible with Windows 10 in addition to the serious risk as mentioned by Joe, I decided to leave the operating system alone. Microsoft has been doing an excellent job of automatically providing the updates needed from time to time for the tablet. (2) Continue using MicroSD cards for program installation needs in addition to data backup. Visual Land representatives did confirm that my MicroSD card reader will support the higher storage capacity MicroSDXC cards which will certainly prove helpful in working around the limited internal storage capacity of this tablet.
Overall, the Visual Land Premier 10 tablet running Windows 8.1 is working just fine and without errors and performance issues. It does have limitations which much be considered when owning one such as missing left and right click buttons underneath the touchpad mouse in addition to the small hard drive size. Also, there are occasional variations of wireless signal strength. With this said, my satisfaction with this tablet would have to be average at best.
Thanks again Joe and John for your shared input. As always, I did learn a great deal here.
George
Thank you very much for your shared suggestions, tips, illustrations, and resourceful links which I found to be enlightening and insightful. From past help the both of you have given me, I have come to expect nothing less. Your feedback has always been on target with each and every question and follow up question.
With regards to what I have decided regarding this tablet, I have come to the conclusion it would be best to do the following: (1) Leave Windows 8.1 on the tablet and not bother with upgrading to Windows 10. Seeing that I never heard back from Visual Land regarding whether this tablet will be compatible with Windows 10 in addition to the serious risk as mentioned by Joe, I decided to leave the operating system alone. Microsoft has been doing an excellent job of automatically providing the updates needed from time to time for the tablet. (2) Continue using MicroSD cards for program installation needs in addition to data backup. Visual Land representatives did confirm that my MicroSD card reader will support the higher storage capacity MicroSDXC cards which will certainly prove helpful in working around the limited internal storage capacity of this tablet.
Overall, the Visual Land Premier 10 tablet running Windows 8.1 is working just fine and without errors and performance issues. It does have limitations which much be considered when owning one such as missing left and right click buttons underneath the touchpad mouse in addition to the small hard drive size. Also, there are occasional variations of wireless signal strength. With this said, my satisfaction with this tablet would have to be average at best.
Thanks again Joe and John for your shared input. As always, I did learn a great deal here.
George
Thank you for your update here and I was happy to help you. Hopefully one day you can get a Windows 10 tablet.
Hi George,
First, I agree with both of your conclusions, i.e., leave W8.1 on the tablet and use the MicroSD card for programs and data. It's very good news that the card reader is SDXC-capable, as 64GB and 128GB MicroSDXC cards are reasonably priced (256GB ones are not — yet). Second, thanks for your (always) comprehensive closing comments — very helpful! Btw, since the SD card will be a primary (not backup) storage device, i.e., it will contain programs and data that are not on the C drive, you should back it up (to a storage device connected to the tablet's USB port and/or to the cloud). Regards, Joe
First, I agree with both of your conclusions, i.e., leave W8.1 on the tablet and use the MicroSD card for programs and data. It's very good news that the card reader is SDXC-capable, as 64GB and 128GB MicroSDXC cards are reasonably priced (256GB ones are not — yet). Second, thanks for your (always) comprehensive closing comments — very helpful! Btw, since the SD card will be a primary (not backup) storage device, i.e., it will contain programs and data that are not on the C drive, you should back it up (to a storage device connected to the tablet's USB port and/or to the cloud). Regards, Joe
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Thanks Joe for your follow up and closing suggestion regarding data backup. I will certainly be doing this most likely to my external USB 1TB Western Digital hard drive.
George
George
> I will certainly be doing this most likely to my external USB 1TB Western Digital hard drive.
Excellent!
Excellent!
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Joe, I see what you mean about the expected internal storage being 16GB which is also indicated on the exterior of the tablet's packaging box. However, only 8GB is being indicated for C: within File Manager in addition to the 30GB for the 32GB Micro SDHC card. I am assuming some of this space on the Micro SDHC card is being occupied by system files. The card is installed but has nothing on it at the moment.
George